The new Harley "street"!

AlphaDogChoppers said:
Um, I like short fat girls...
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^^^^ha :D ha :D ha 8) me too....!!!! :-[

And me too.......>>"I'm so old, I even know what ignition points are."
 
bradj said:
hahaha o my god im suprized "old lady barbie" doesnt have a black eye
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Thats 'cause her dream house has an awesome kitchen!
Either that or Ken ain't Irish. :p

Hey Brad, does "rubber hose tail loop" have two B's or just one?
 
bradj said:
hahaha o my god im suprized "old lady barbie" doesnt have a black eye
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Hahaha that was a good one ;D

And Alpha, we have are disadvantages too! Like pretty ladies all year long, sporting their bikinis....
:eek:
 
Aircoolin said:
And Alpha, we have are disadvantages too! Like pretty ladies all year long, sporting their bikinis....
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Dude! NObody wants to see my ol' lady in a bikini. Shit, I avert my eyes when she is getting dressed.
 
AlphaDogChoppers said:
Dude! NObody wants to see my ol' lady in a bikini. Shit, I avert my eyes when she is getting dressed.
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Fuck man I just laughed for about 10
Minutes straight!!! ;D

Joey
 
With todays economy and the younger generation finding it hard to get full time work have found they can't afford a car and the insurance and operating costs. They are leaning towards more purchases of bikes. This crowd will not buy the Sportsters and larger bikes and therefore are easy pickings for cheap lightweight import bikes. If Harley didn't do something to capture their share of that market it would put a serious hurt on their market share in the near future. It's not about their market share in the USA, they have to compete globally or they will hurt because of it. Brad will jump my shit no matter what I say for or against Harley Davidson, but it's just jealous rage.
 
To be honest, I like the look except for the giant radiator in the front (but, ya know, where else are you supposed to put it?) I really would like to sit on one and take it for a test ride though. I look at it this way - more options for new bikes in that particular style are never a bad thing. I don't know what the general HD crowd will think of it, and I'm sure there will be some mixed emotions when it comes to the HD rah-rah when they find out where it was built, but as time has shown HD owners are nothing if not loyal.

There was a survey recently that I saw showing that HD has the second-worst reliability ratings (behind BMW) but yet the highest level of owner satisfaction and retention. There are reasons behind that and they've already been mentioned here.

Love'em, hate'em, sit somewhere in the middle... doesn't matter. Ride what you want.
 
o1marc said:
If Harley didn't do something to capture their share of that market it would put a serious hurt on their market share in the near future.
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Well, that point is what I disagree with. Harley does not need to catch the youth market, because most younger people cannot afford a bike of the caliber, (and price,) of a Harley. They will go out and buy some other cruiser with a bunch of chromed plastic pieces, and feel superior about their choice. Of course, they could have bought a used Harley for the same or less money.

When they get older, they will settle in for the bike they always wanted to begin with, a Harley.
 
> There was a survey recently that I saw showing that HD has the second-worst reliability ratings (behind BMW)

If you mean the consumer reports review, they make clear that it's the farkles that break - and that people buying a $20K machine are more likely to bring it in for service if something minor goes wrong.
 
AlphaDogChoppers said:
Well, that point is what I disagree with. Harley does not need to catch the youth market, because most younger people cannot afford a bike of the caliber, (and price,) of a Harley. They will go out and buy some other cruiser with a bunch of chromed plastic pieces, and feel superior about their choice. Of course, they could have bought a used Harley for the same or less money.

When they get older, they will settle in for the bike they always wanted to begin with, a Harley.
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Okay , so we will disagree. I think they can't afford a bike of the caliber of a Sportster or Big Twin, but when these "Street" bikes come in at the same price as other imports (the Bolt costs more) the younger crowd can now add the H-D's as an option, Have the mystique of owning/riding a Harley and still have the plastic crap.
 
I think that there are a few problems with that "first ever motorcycle reliability report." They refer to the number of "major" problems, then we see that they are mostly with accessories. You know, stuff that isn't manufactured by HD. Then we also learn that the majority of these "major" repairs were under $400. Shit. A lot of Harley owners will pay $300 for fluid changes and checkup, fer fuck sake!

How many times were they left stranded at the side of the road?
How many times were they able to get their bike repaired and back on the road in 24 hours.

Put those two questions in the survey, and see how the ratings change. Who gives a rat's ass if the Harmon Kardon radio goes on the blink? The real test of reliability is if the bike gets you home, and the level of service available when you are on the road.

I would also like to see stats on the number of miles per year the surveyed riders used the bikes in question.
 
I think it's ironic, with all this talk, that there is such a divide between the Jap buyers and the Harley guys. It was the Japanese manufacturers that helped bail out Harley with loans post-AMF. Reagan imposed a 45% tariff on motorcycles with over 700cc in 83, then Harley dropped the request in 84 in exchange for the loans. Harley went back to the classic designs to avoid the market that the Japanese bikes controlled. That's when they went to that sub shock rear end on the soft tails. Also, anyone that doesn't think they need the youth market is ignoring Harley history. They bought Holiday Rambler in the 90's for the same reason- because they relied on an aging baby boomer market.
 
The average age of a new Harley purchaser in 1999 was 43. It has gone up about 6months each year to where it is now at 50. The average new buyer is a professional (Doctor,lawyer,etc) That makes over $120k per year. These Street bikes were soley intended for the 25-45 target market to compete worldwide. While H-D holds the highest market share here in the states Honda was 2nd and increased their sales by 25% in 2013.
 
In general I don't think a lot of younger people like the looks of the Harley's being sold today. Sportsters are ok, but you can make them pretty sweet. All the bigger bikes aren't appealing to the younger rider. That's why you see every guy from the age of 16-30 riding either a cafe or a crotch rocket(and some bobbers in there).

Now I don't think any things wrong with that, I just think this new harley might change the game a little bit. Good for them!

And as for the cost, you gotta pay to play 8)

Joey
 
All I know is that Bradj thinks any motorcycle brand that starts with the letter H sucks....

So there!
 
I don't mind it :)
Its a good looking bike in my opinion and definitely better than a sportster.
They should have called it the "Harley Hipster" playing off the sportster name ;D
 
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