Vapor blasted carbs ends in hassle !!

el_simo

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Hey guys, haven't posted for a month or two now. So I got my vm 26s vapor blasted from this guy near Dublin . The guy had me running around after him for two weeks and it all ended in an argument on the side of the road with me taking the parts off him and paying of course. On getting home I noticed I was missing the top screw cap from one of my carbs !!! I've looked everywhere in my car etc thinking I dropped it ! I rang the blaster guy but after our 'tiff' he won't answer ! Now I'm missing one darn cap and it's holding up my build !

Any suggestions where I can source this one little part ? I've looked all over flea bay !

Thanks as always gents,

Si
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They are the same part on any R5,RD250-350-400, LC and probably any small dirt bike (not Honda).
 
Yeah I was thinking the same as vm 28s too. I'm trying to find an old useless carb somewhere just for that part !
 
On another note, those look pretty 'rough' for vapor blasting. Are they smooth or is there texture?
 
Hey Tim, no they're smooth the pic seems rough alright . The second carb was damaged inside the float chamber through corrosion but seems ok . In Ireland it seems I'm not exactly spoiled for choice for guys that offer blasting and powder coating ! Sonreir thanks man I may look into that !! :)
 
No problem, man. Not trying to stir up trouble, I'm just hoping you got what you paid for.

I'm ready to accept that it was just the photo that's making it look a bit rough, but here's another shot of vapor blasted carbs for comparison. It's often difficult to tell, but the external brass on your carbs looked to be a dead give away for it being blasted with sand (or other fine media) as opposed to a true vapor blasting. The brass looks more yellow than gold.

Here's a before and after shot of some carbs that were vapor blasted:
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You can see how shiny the brass comes out. This is because vapor blasting removes very little, if any, metal and you end up with a very polished look.
 
Hmm that does seem very different to mine ! Dammit ! Feckin' amateurs ! Am I screwed now airflow wise ? Point to note I bought all new jets only the body was blasted (poorly from what I just learned) .
 
If they blasted the insides as well as the out, you may have some problems but they likely won't be too noticeable if you're running with fresh jets. It's probable that a dyno would be able to tell the difference though.

If they blasted just the outside of the carbs you should be fine. It's just cosmetic. My main reason for commenting was the price though. Generally speaking, vapor blasting is more expensive than media blasting and I was hoping you weren't overcharged.
 
I paid €40 for both so I don't think that's too bad insides seem fine yeah . Thanks for the heads up though dude ! Bit annoying when lads don't get how important the project is . I had the same sort of issues with the Powdercoater and had to change halfway through . Think my thread needs a major updating soon. In the mean time, I may consider sending parts to the us for work in future !
 
That sounds like a lot to me but I have no idea about prices in your neck of the woods.
 
These guys are one of the few shops to advertise the service in the US (none in Canada). Interestingly they suggest not doing it to die-cast parts.

www.vaporblasting.biz
 
I tried a cheap home ultrasonic cleaner but it was no use so I went with the vapor blast option
 
Tim said:
These guys are one of the few shops to advertise the service in the US (none in Canada). Interestingly they suggest not doing it to die-cast parts.

www.vaporblasting.biz

That's the place local to me. One of the very first in the US to offer the service. The reason they suggest avoiding die cast has to do with the extra work involved (something about Japanese stuff being more complex? I dunno...) They will do it, but they'll charge you twice as much.
 
Aqua blasting/vapor blast an abrasive in a water jet. It's not all that gentle but it does leave a nice finish. We were using it at Rolls Royce on experimental manufacturing with solid nickle solutions decades ago.

Die casting leaves a very fine surface finish and I suspect that vapor blasting removes some of that smooth finish. Sand casting leaves a much rougher surface, so it doesn't show the irregularities created by blasting.
 
I'd love to ship those guys my next XS650 engine (my current engine is coming apart next once the one I'm working on goes into the bike) but shipping to and from Canada would kill it, especially if I sent the cylinders along with the empty engine cases.

I like the soda blast finish I got locally, so will be going that route again on the next one.
 
Caught the cafe bug and bought myself a '79 Honda 400/4 a couple of weeks ago ! Some jerk painted the engine so I will be looking to blast them . You reckon soda is the best Tim yeah ? I won't be going back to that vapor blast guy anyway !
 
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