who knows how to Paint?!?!
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Thanks, On my first project I painted the tanks and covers with that dupli-color ready to spray laqeur available at most auto stores. results weren't awful but it looked like DIY job.
I found I enjoyed the process, sanding, prep etc. crank some tunes, have a beer handy, not too bad.
I have a '72 350 Four and a '72 Yamaha R5 that both need paint. I will post some pics later.
I have a cheap gun I bought at lowes but I'm willing to invest in some gear if it will get me good results.
If it ever stops raining I'll get some pics.
Scott
I found I enjoyed the process, sanding, prep etc. crank some tunes, have a beer handy, not too bad.
I have a '72 350 Four and a '72 Yamaha R5 that both need paint. I will post some pics later.
I have a cheap gun I bought at lowes but I'm willing to invest in some gear if it will get me good results.
If it ever stops raining I'll get some pics.
Scott
Okay, some pics
First up is the 350 four tank, it is a red metal flake and the paint is faded out on the top
The metal flake is pretty cool but I may opt for a more basic solid red color.
There is a small dent on the front right corner of the tank that needs to be dealt with.
I've done a fair bit of body work over the years but I am not up what is the best materials to use these days so any advice is welcome. I'll throw some more pics up.
The Yamaha is next. I love the color scheme but if it is too complicated for a novice I might opt to paint the tank the orange color and then add a simple black stripe on the top or something like that. again it has that little annoying dent in the front right corner. Why always there?
I also want to restore the engine paint scheme to this bike.
I want to start with the Honda tank and do a one solid color shceme to keep it simple to start. I will be painting the side covers and fork covers/headlight ears etc as well.
Thanks in advance for the help.
First up is the 350 four tank, it is a red metal flake and the paint is faded out on the top
There is a small dent on the front right corner of the tank that needs to be dealt with.
The Yamaha is next. I love the color scheme but if it is too complicated for a novice I might opt to paint the tank the orange color and then add a simple black stripe on the top or something like that. again it has that little annoying dent in the front right corner. Why always there?
I also want to restore the engine paint scheme to this bike.
I want to start with the Honda tank and do a one solid color shceme to keep it simple to start. I will be painting the side covers and fork covers/headlight ears etc as well.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Looks like you have got yourself a real beauty! Piece of cake I'll walk you down the list; everything in your pictures can be made to look better then new with a little sweat and a lot of beer.
leave the tank for last - big pieces always go last! if you have to fix anything it's easier to fix the small pieces and this was by the time you get to the tank you will have had plenty of experience with the materials and have increased your likelihood of success on the main parts.
first thing first:
prep,prep,prep!!! you will spend 90% of the time sanding and filling and 10% of the time actually painting.
You need to clean up the old parts. Do you have access to a blaster?
some more reading for you http://www.autobody101.com/
leave the tank for last - big pieces always go last! if you have to fix anything it's easier to fix the small pieces and this was by the time you get to the tank you will have had plenty of experience with the materials and have increased your likelihood of success on the main parts.
first thing first:
prep,prep,prep!!! you will spend 90% of the time sanding and filling and 10% of the time actually painting.
You need to clean up the old parts. Do you have access to a blaster?
some more reading for you http://www.autobody101.com/
A blaster, yes I was looking on line today. I think I am going to buy one. can you help with what I should get? I don't have unlimited funds but I can spring a little cash free on some tools. I figured I could build a little booth with plastic sheeting etc. The one tank I did paint taught me that prep is 90% but years of carpentry teach you that too. infact most of life is prep really,
I'll check out that link.
I'll check out that link.
I had a local guy blast my entire bike for $100. best money spent! 30 years or dirt grease and grime don't come out easy and nothing puts a smile on your face as a basket full of clean parts.
The blasters you see see advertised as "countertop"are garbage. You'll get one or two uses out of it before you get frustrated with it.
I've been on the fence to get on for the shop but I just can't drop 5k for decent industrial model.
The blasters you see see advertised as "countertop"are garbage. You'll get one or two uses out of it before you get frustrated with it.
I've been on the fence to get on for the shop but I just can't drop 5k for decent industrial model.
So those little handheld air tools for $40 are not what you are referring to? One of those might work well on little stuff though??!
Who does this kind of work? where do you find someone? yellow pages? I was talking with a guy about having the frames powder coated and he said he didn't know anyone who could blast a frame. He quoted $275 to powder coat the frame and swing arm. Does that sound reasonable?
Who does this kind of work? where do you find someone? yellow pages? I was talking with a guy about having the frames powder coated and he said he didn't know anyone who could blast a frame. He quoted $275 to powder coat the frame and swing arm. Does that sound reasonable?
Never tried any of the hand held units. Try a local search of the business directory or take a trip out to the local car show. I'm sure on of the old timers could point you in the right direction for someone local.
Blast-it-all is a US based blaster mgf try always helped me out with all my questions... maybe they could tell you who has a unit in your area.
275 for powder? for the entire bike! for a frame and swing arm??? seems expensive. Around here the average cost of powder is 40-60$/hook.
---if you send you your stuff for p/c you should do all the masking form them. Nothing more frustrating then scraping p/c from bolt holes.
Blast-it-all is a US based blaster mgf try always helped me out with all my questions... maybe they could tell you who has a unit in your area.
275 for powder? for the entire bike! for a frame and swing arm??? seems expensive. Around here the average cost of powder is 40-60$/hook.
---if you send you your stuff for p/c you should do all the masking form them. Nothing more frustrating then scraping p/c from bolt holes.
Okay, so I've read, read, read. I understand the need to pay attention to the chemistry and to be thorough with prep etc. I'm a big trial and error guy, this goes back to my art school days. So, What I need, is one of you guys to tell me what to do. I.E. "Go get this Product and this gun and do things in this order" the actual tecnique stuff? that part I'll try to figure out, but dos and don'ts? I'm all ears. I figure I'll just practice on an old tank or fender and paint it til I get it right. You have the experience so tell me what products to use and how you use them. Please!?
The Yamaha I will be trying to go back with the factory orange but with a single black stripe down the center of the tank. I will be painting the side covers, headlight ears and bucket and the tank.
The honda I will be painting a solid color and probably doing a checkerboard offset on the top of the tank. Tank, side covers, ears, and fork covers.
I am really psyched to try this and looking forward to all your input!!
The Yamaha I will be trying to go back with the factory orange but with a single black stripe down the center of the tank. I will be painting the side covers, headlight ears and bucket and the tank.
The honda I will be painting a solid color and probably doing a checkerboard offset on the top of the tank. Tank, side covers, ears, and fork covers.
I am really psyched to try this and looking forward to all your input!!
I see a lot of talk about blasting but little on liquid paint stripper. Different forms of media blasting gives you awesome results but if you're on a limited budget, the initial set up could put you in the poor house. If you have painted surfaces that just require the paint to be removed, try just using a good quality automotive/aircraft paint stripper. Its cheap and easy.(Not like my women) Like someone else mentioned, its like 90% prep. I love the creative ways guys here made blasting cabinets but they can take time to make and depending on what you use, could take up a lot of room. Ive done everything to alum oxide to soda blasting yielding beautiful results but when it comes to just stripping paint I go with VHT stripper. I have to say that once you get hooked on blasting you'll be blasting everything. Including the cat.
I know what you mean about stripping the paint. But where I've got a lot of rusty stuff as well I bought a cheap spot blaster that I'll use for the small stuff. I'm not going to make a fancy cabinet. just something quick to contain stuff and I'm going to have at it in the driveway. There are a lot of cats in the neighborhood. 8)
