Writeup on XS650 hoops on CB/CL350 hubs?

chewy

El Borracho
Did some searching and it appears that the aluminum shouldered xs650 hoops from mikesxs are the go-to for nice rims to replace aging stockers.

On my CL350 (19"F 18"R) could I use stock spoke lengths when going to the xs650 hoops?

Is there a writeup on this? (did some searching but only got bits and pieces of the whole picture).
Nipple Washers etc?

Basically looking for a cliff notes of what parts to buy. Any point to not going to a 19" front?

Thanks DTT!!
 
I did the 18in on my CB360, front and rear, worked perfectly. The rims are the same as Honda's in spacing and angle.

I used stock length spokes from Buchanan's.

See my build, link in sig.....The rims look great.
 
man, your wheels came out nice! Painted hubs looked solid too!

Any reason to not stay with a 19" front rim?

Approximate cost in your wheels?
180 in rims?
spokes?
Nipples?

I've laced and trued bicycle wheels before. Any reason to not attempt lacing these myself?
 
Chewy said:
man, your wheels came out nice! Painted hubs looked solid too!

Any reason to not stay with a 19" front rim?

Approximate cost in your wheels?
180 in rims?
spokes?
Nipples?

I've laced and trued bicycle wheels before. Any reason to not attempt lacing these myself?

If you can do bicycle wheels you'll have no problems with motorcycle wheels.
They are just bigger and heavier ;)
I use stock spokes, shouldn't have any problems using spokes for 19" with Yamaha 19" rim
 
Chewy said:
man, your wheels came out nice! Painted hubs looked solid too!

Any reason to not stay with a 19" front rim?

Approximate cost in your wheels?
180 in rims?
spokes?
Nipples?

I've laced and trued bicycle wheels before. Any reason to not attempt lacing these myself?

I've done a bicycle, and these were similar. First time for me, but only one misstep.

The CB360 is 18 inch front stock. I stayed with 18. the CL had 19 inch wheels.

the rims were $74 for the Front, $85 for the rear. Free shipping from Mikes over $150.
The spokes were $113 each set shipped from Buchanan's. they are unpolished SS spokes and nipples. Stock Length.

So $385 for the bunch....I bought the parts individually, but looking at the total, I might of said that was too much... ;D

Watch some video's on lacing, I also took a lot of pictures of my old wheel set up for reference. I got a little lost on the first one (rear) a couple of times...took me 6 hours.
the front took 2 hours. I flew through it. Prelace the innersfirst, then do the outers. the inners cannot be put on if the outers are there.

I am glad I did it...
 
I read some people use brass nipple washer. Are these required for stock spoke and nipples?
 
No
They are used when you use modern MX rims with a larger nipple hole
 
I used 18 x 1.85 front (18 x 1.65 is stock)
18 x 2.15 rear. (18 x 1.85 is stock)

However, this is for CB. CL's had 19 inch fronts. You can change to 18, but spokes are shorter. - Edit : I missed the first post, you knew this...LOL
 
WM2 front and WM3 rear, stock is WM1 and WM2 (1.60" & 1.85")
If your building a cafe, I would fit 18" front and use spokes off e-bay, guy is selling butted spokes like originals for $40.00 (can't remember if it's plus shipping?)
 
And then go buy yourself some 18" AVON RoadRiders for both ends. Stick to narrow tires - don't get sucked into fatter=better.

I run 18's on my XS650 and a 110 rear, 100 front. Next tires will likely be 100 rear 90 front. FWIW I run the 18" MikesXS rim on the front of my bike and have had it to ~120. I'm still alive. Buchanan stainless spokes/nipples all around.
 
I have the Buchanan's Unpolished Stainless spokes and nipples too...I love the look...Like freshly plated steel spokes, but they won't corrode. I didn't want polished, as I think that would of been a little too shiny for my tastes.
 
Yup. Got another 2 sets of Buchanan spokes on the way for my rigid project. Seems to me they're getting pricier though. The hit on my VISA was a little harder than I was expecting.
 
Are the ebay spokes worth it? 40% the price of Buchanans.... hows the quality?

And DAMN, buchanans spokes are pricey...

Any point to using 1.85" width front and rear?
 
Chewy said:
Any point to using 1.85" width front and rear?

Not if your buying rims anyway, wider rear rim allows tyre to seat properly and should give better handling, saving $2~$3 bucks isn't worth the difference
 
Gotcha. I was more interested in it as a symmetric approach.

Got any experience with those Thailand ebay spokes?
 
Yep, they are OK but I would look for the CB400f front wheel spoke set, it's just like original, the Thailand spokes are 'straight' instead of butted
I just checked eBay, they had a MAJOR price hike, I paid $40.00 plus shipping, they are now $55 :eek:
It's still about half the price of Buchanan's though and I think worth the money (Genuine are around $3.00 - EACH )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB350G-CB360-CB350F-CB400F-18-Front-Wheel-Spoke-Kit-36-PC-900-426-/380477891054?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58963fe1ee&vxp=mtr
 
crazypj said:
Yep, they are OK but I would look for the CB400f front wheel spoke set, it's just like original, the Thailand spokes are 'straight' instead of butted
I just checked eBay, they had a MAJOR price hike, I paid $40.00 plus shipping, they are now $55 :eek:
It's still about half the price of Buchanan's though and I think worth the money (Genuine are around $3.00 - EACH )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB350G-CB360-CB350F-CB400F-18-Front-Wheel-Spoke-Kit-36-PC-900-426-/380477891054?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item58963fe1ee&vxp=mtr

Those would only fit the cb350G - i.e. disc brakes.... which uses different length spokes right?
 
Chewy said:
Are the ebay spokes worth it? 40% the price of Buchanans.... hows the quality?

And DAMN, buchanans spokes are pricey...

Any point to using 1.85" width front and rear?
the Thai spokes are plated steel. My Buchanan's are stainless. That accounts for some of the difference. The B brand are same gauge and quality as original and are swaged (Thicker at the ends). I've seen posts of the Thai ones that show smaller gauges, no swaging, and the heads are a little smaller.

I called Buchanan's and discussed what I was doing with "Kenny", the phone rep... I later found out it was Kenny Buchanan. He sia Honda rider and has or had a CB350. Really knowledgeable about rims and relacing, and offered some good advice. Thet are a little expensive (Mine were $113 per set shipped) but they are available on the phone for advice and questions.

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