XS750?

magnang

Been Around the Block
I love cafe racers, I just finished a CB175, but I always have my eye out for a bigger bike. I particular I have been looking out for any XS650 that pops up in my area for a fair price.

I spotted a nice XS750 Special going for a great price. Seems to be clean and in good running order. However, how could one of theses turn out as a cafe? The special is the cruiser wanna be model, I am guessing the forks are different as well as the gas tank / seat. It's also a shaft drive and a bit heavy at 550lbs. The Triple sounds like it would be neat though

How good are theses bikes? How easily could I turn this into a cool looking vintage cafe?

Looks very much like this
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crazypj said:
inline 3 cyl sounds really cool.
Special looks like quite a lot of work though.
If its a late model without the second gear problem its a good bike. ( although it does have Hitachi carbs, but jets are now available so thats not a total disaster)

PJ

It's a 1978. I think this was the year they made more power (74hp). I know they are the first year with electronic ignition. Do you know more about the second gear problem?

Do you know which carbs it would have? Are the Hitachis on theses the ones that can't be re-jetted?
 
Magnang - I'm in the middle of doing this with this exact bike, with a little (aka a shitload of) help from my DTT'ers. It's totally doable. Mine is definitely gonna stay half rat / half cafe. The triple does sound amazing when it's running, I can see why folks love them so much. The weight was a worry to me too, going from a CB360 to this. Cutting down the seat and tank would help scale it down some, but there's no centre stand or anything much you can take off it to lighten it much more. I left the original tank. Waiting on side covers and the reworked seat, but here it is as I got it (for $300!):
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...and here's where it's at now:
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...and here's the best helmet ever. I just need a Ski-doo to go with it:
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...hey, upload your XS progress as you go, I'd love to see what you do to it.
 
Did that shit even work? Here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29067760@N06/
 

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ccvsgod said:
Did that shit even work? Here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/29067760@N06/

Nice bike!!!

I was actually looking to do more or less the same thing. I was going to paint it British racing green and put a few cafe parts on it. Nothing extreme, but just cleaning it up.

Bad news for me though, the bike sold before I could pick it up. Sucks since it was 550$ but very clean and running well, and I had a buyer lined up for my 175.

Ad is still up actually! (in french)
http://montreal.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-yamaha-W0QQAdIdZ125209976

Oh well, I will keep looking
 
Agh! That sucks. Well, there is a '79 750 triple for $1000 as of today (toronto):

http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-motorcycles-OWN-A-CLASSIC-W0QQAdIdZ130678453
 
I have a xs650 special. Not too different,

Before:
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After:
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It isn't that hard to cafe. I am building a cafe seat for it currently.
 
I'm a huge fan of the Yamaha triples, I have four in various states of build/disassembly.
Your 78 is a good year with the electronic ignition, the second gear fix is basically $0, pull a clip, reassemble, ride like you stole it.
Go here for info:
http://www.yamaha-triples.org/

go here to drool:
http://www.yamaha-triples.org/photos/photo-thumbnails.asp?albumid=120
He races in one vintage class or another

go here to see Gnarak's stuff. He's documented his Triumph fork swap as well as the rest of his cafe build.
http://www.yamaha-triples.org/photos/photo-main.asp?viewmember=57

There's a crap load of weight that can be taken off these, I've got one that's going to paint and power now that's probably in the 410 pound range and that's keeping the chubby stock cast rims. The OEM forks are HEAVY, swap them out for larger diameter newer forks. You'll be happy. I've seen one (in pictures) converted to chain drive in a very cool looking vintage style frame, if i remember correctly it was running at something like 345 pounds or something crazy like that.

Upgrades for power and handling are out there if you know what to look for;

-Swap on an 850 head. Far better flow at stock lift, responds very well to port work (doesn't need a lot) +.2 to compression
-Swap to 850 jugs and pistons. You end up at 826cc and IIRC +.6 compression (?)
-Carbs and exhaust headers from any Hinkley Triumph triple up to (but not including) the 595/955 engine are perfectly spaced.
The carbs are still CV but they are really head and shoulders above the OE Yamaha Hitachis, very tunable and more forgiving with pods filters. Have an exhaust shop change the flanges on the header and it's a slam dunk. The angles are right, it fits under the bike, clears the oil pot and weighs a lot less, never mind the fact that it's tuned far better than the Yamaha piece.
-It's fairly simple to swap on an XS1100 swing arm (or even just the pumpkin) for much better gearing for acceleration.


-Swap to a dual disc XS650 front rim for spokes
-Swap to one of several Virago rear wheels for spokes out back.
-Swap to a Virago swing arm for more length. Helps when you swap to shorter/beefier forks since they'll be less raked, you may want just a bit more wheelbase if you feel it's twitchy.

-Chain drive conversions are out there, at that point you can go crazy with your chassis. I've chatted with a kat who's running R6 suspension pieces in some brit frame (older spondon I think) and if I remember correctly he'll be in the 350 pound range and running close to 140hp.

I *think* pistons from an FJ1100/1200 will work (wrist pin dia. vs ring land height) with the appropriate sleeves, 1050ccs should be do-able. I've got the parts on hand here except for the sleeves and I'm going to give it a try probably this winter. LA Sleeve is happy to make the sleeves needed for the conversion and their prices aren't bad.

I know there's the Megacycle cam sets out there, they are very nice but $$$
Delta Cams in Washington state reground a set for my last 850 that really woke the bike up....and they're not $$$. I think with shipping I was into them for $120 welded up and reground from my OE sticks. I have 20k+ miles with no wear issues. Good stuff.

the Special and the Standard share almost all the chassis parts except triple clamps and forks so don't be shy about that Special.
You should buy it!
 
Thanks for all the info man. I actually missed out on that bike, by the time I got a hold of the guy, it was sold.

I will be keeping my eye out for another XS650/750.

Cheers,

Guy
 
Keep in mind the XS650 is a totally different animal than the XS7/850.....both however are bitchin!
 
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