76 CB360, Cherry Bomb at Barber's

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

BTW, I used a 1/4" ball end burr in die grinder to chamfer the internal holes in clutch hub

sneaky PJ!

I will clean up filter and post. I dont think anything is distorted maybe just pic.

I noticed the punch marks in my clutch thing...but in that pic, yours really look drilled!!! I was amazed you didnt cut through wall and how weak it would be.

success !
The filtering system was clogged completely useless, 9999 out of the 10,000 miles mustve been spent on dusty gravel roads.

thanks guys for coming to my aid.

Now lunch and a nap!

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

IF anyone would like to chime in w a tip "before" I start the next phase...They are absolutely welcome to do so. "examples" any special tools I dont have. pack a handful of sand a ground clam shells into transmission....really anything. I am ready to admit "I have no idea what Im doing here"....LOL Does it show! I will listen to any suggestions.
thanks for your time
eric

 

[crazypj]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Where is filter end cap?
Remove oil pump idler gear and shaft before it falls out,the shaft is pinned so only fits in one position.
Remove the detent roller(top left in pic) remove the gearchange shaft (pull arm down to release from gearchange drum)
There should be a fat 'O' ring on the oil pump pick up, may be stuck in case?
Oh, drill oil holes in top case to 1/16" (or is it 5/32", I forget? ;D )
Bigger by 1/32" than they are now :

 

[Koestum]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

IF anyone would like to chime in w a tip "before" I start the next phase...

Ya, while you're in the garage and taking pics and posting why don't you point the camera at your 67 Mustang convertible project and post it

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

OK PJ...

Mine does not have (1) clutch plate A
or the (3) stopper ring
It doesnt have the hole drilled for the stopper ring (catch).

and...

and yes I am getting the fat o ring out of oil screen tube hole now.

 

[crazypj]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Look behind the rear outside cylinder studs
You have different clutch hub, don't worry about drilling back plate
'A' plate is thicker than the rest to act as backing for clutch pack

 

[frogman]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Holes you drill out are on the top of the case right next to the rear OUTSIDE studs.

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Holes you drill out are on the top of the case right next to the rear OUTSIDE studs.

Oh ok so I wont see the holes until after I open this case? correct?

 

[axeugene27]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

I am always amazed how clean these old motors innards are. People are often misled by looking at the aged body work and pitted chrome thinking these old motors are junk. Off topic just saying.

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Got my holes drilled and "properly" chamfered.
I re-checked my clutch disks...and I am definitly missing that thicker plate! I double checked the parts view at the local honda shop page. YES they show it and NOPE I dont got that! and they dont list it for sale!
WTF!
I have 8 fiber disks and 7 metal plates between em...the fiber disks on the outside of stack directly contact the center Clutch plate missing the thicker Plate A. I guess Ill just have to get an extra "PLATE B, CLUTCH
22321-KA4-700" and stick that in there. (something would be better than nothing)
Unless, Anybody got an extra thicker "A plate" they need to unload?

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

I am always amazed how clean these old motors innards are. People are often misled by looking at the aged body work and pitted chrome thinking these old motors are junk. Off topic just saying.

I know, my oil filter was stuffed. and inside motor just gleems.

 

[frogman]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Oh ok so I wont see the holes until after I open this case? correct?

Cylinder studs. The two rear outside ones have little galleries right at the bottom and the oil for the HEAD goes up the hole that they go into.

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Cylinder studs. The two rear outside ones have little galleries right at the bottom and the oil for the HEAD goes up the hole that they go into.

JESUS CHRIST! I dont even want to know how you guys know this shit!!!! LOL (sigh) I am getting overwhelmed!!!
but, I will get em drilled. Thankyou frogman. and PJ...(for being the vauge-est man in the world!)

Oh, drill oil holes in top case to 1/16" (or is it 5/32", I forget? ;D )
Bigger by 1/32" than they are now :

LOL does it show I am getting overwhelmed ? Im sorry guys please bear w me...and hang in there.

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

OK found the discrepency...
Apparently it has a 1976 CJ clutch installed. WTF. Why would they do that?

No thicker A plate and no lock ring.
So I guess Im installing my fresh fiber disks and springs.
Thank god that drama is over.

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

And you know...I am not a big fan of drama...but this motor sure seems to wring it out of me!!!

 

[Koestum]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

I dug up another pic from Memorial Day to keep you inspired:

 

[crazypj]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

JESUS CHRIST! I dont even want to know how you guys know this shit!!!! LOL (sigh) I am getting overwhelmed!!!
but, I will get em drilled. Thankyou frogman. and PJ...(for being the vauge-est man in the world!)LOL does it show I am getting overwhelmed ? Im sorry guys please bear w me...and hang in there.

The idea was, you would take a real good look at things and find the oil feed holes
Most people know about them from posts I've made over several years on various sites, mainly Honda Twins
I've had CJ's and earlier CB's, got confused over which is which ;D
You have a 76, I guess Honda got better at casting, probably use a different (harder) alloy?

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

Thank you PJ. I swear you meant on the top (upper) portion of the top case...under the right and left covers. I looked and looked and that one was the only thing I could find. but now I know "top of case" means top of case, under jugs.

Now here is what Ive got...this time before frustration takes me over...I removed all the gear shifter stuff and detent lever you mentioned. I got all the bolts out of cases. I reinstalled 4 of the larger. and have been tapping my way around them w hammer. cases have yet to split.
Maybe heat the seams w the propane torch?
or, is there yet another trick ? I will try in the morning. I have had enough for one day.

 

[trek97]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

I dug up another pic from Memorial Day to keep you inspired:

NICE! thankyou.

 

[crazypj]

Re: 76 CB360, before & after

You took all the bolts out of top case first then the bottom case bolts, including the one between gear shafts on left side and the ones hidden in center of case on bottom?