PJ, I didn't realize you were so much younger than me. By 71, I was 21 and had two kids and was still at uni, but I did build a couple of cafe racers back in the day. BSA Goldie in 72/4 and a couple of different T100 Triumphs earlier - like 68/9 on. fell of the bikes a few times without much damage and then I got an Imp and smashed it and set fire to the car and myself. Bikes were safer.....