Fuchs style motorcycle wheels?

dannydarko89

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Hey guys (and gals), I'm in the process of planning for my first build. Recently I was able to watch a great documentary on the awesome Magnus Walker. If you don't know who he is check this out:
http://magnuswalker911.blogspot.com/

I can't afford a Porsche 911. But I thought it'd be neat to do an homage to him with a kind of Porsche themed bike. I've got alot of ideas for what I'm going to do, its going to be a Brat-style (hate the name)with some touches he puts into his cars. I have a lead on a CB750, so I come to you. Are there any Fuchs styled wheels like these for a motorcycle:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fuchs+wheels&hl=en&safe=off&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=_Ti4UKHZKpPo8wSG8YGIDw&sqi=2&ved=0CGsQsAQ&biw=1680&bih=925

The CB750 Mags might work, but I wanted to see my options. Thanks!
 
You have the option of lester wheels they are a bit rare but they are aloy and nice!
I have a set on my gs750 I really like them

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-CB750K-CB-CB750-vintage-lester-wheels-rims-108-/251104220214?item=251104220214&viewitem=&vxp=mtr&nma=true&si=CTSuOC46S%2FMtsEw%2BFSdDEl38o20%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
 
Hmm. Those definitely could work! I like them, and If I painted 'em up in the Fuchs style they'd look the part. The price is a bit steep, but its not really a problem. Thanks!
 
NOPE. I'm building my OWN custom wheels to actually REPLACE what I'm about to tell you. Nevertheless, for the look you're going for, you wanna get yourself some CB900F style comstars. Or, the SOHC style CB750F comstars, but the black ones have the advantages of an 18" front rim available from the GL1100 gold-wing. triple-disc wheels OR drum rear available on the 'K model or C model, depending on size etc. Personally, I like the LOOK of the silver SOHC wheels, but the DOHC type are wider and 17- available. The black ones look AWESOME when they're polished. Also, you could look into the boomerang comstars. But I think the FUCKS whoops I mean FUCHS is a five spoke wheel, yeah? Is it a composite wheel? Well, the comstars are composite! Cast mags are HEAVY. Lesters are SKINNY. Another cool option, if you check out CB750C custom OR my home 'F-orum the CB1100F.net what I call a " 'F-orum" because our 750-800-1100 models are 'F, Super-Sport bikes - what people do is have the comstars WIDENED, by the likes of KOSMAN INDUSTRIES. They take another rim that's cut in half, slice off the sides of your rim, and weld it all up. Trillion Industries in Calgary has done them too, but Kosman's are the industry standard. Also, a really cool trick that would be track/speed/performance oriented, would be to take TWO GL1100 front rims, and have 'em both welded up wide and do the same thing as the "front hub trick" where people use the SOHC hub in a wire spoked rear wheel. Chopper and Drag-Bike nuts do it. It's a lot like a Harley wheel ... only more expensive! Ha ha. But yeah, you could score the GL or any other comstar for less than fifty bucks each....

MY DOHC is getting -as in I'm waiting on my spoke order right NOW, so not "hypothetical, wishful thinking" type of shit: it's "got" 3x18 and 4.25"x18 rims, albeit wire spoked, rims. This gives 110/80ZR18 and 160/60ZR18 RADIAL sport-touring tires. Bias also available.

BUT - you could also look at 16" comstars from various other Hondas, have THEM welded up, they can have their hubs swapped back and forth if you REALLY wanted to get the right hub and rim size combinations - check out 'F-orum member "Melchiro" on CB1100F.net - he's done it - the rivets come out and get BOLTS just like the later era comstar type Honda rims. (The six spoke VFR type.) With 16" comstar wheels, Kosman can make 'em into 17" for sport-bike tires.

BUT - another option. Just from a rim and tire perspective. I'm building wheels right now, as in I've got the hubs and rims right here in my lap type of thing, I just need the drums spun and spokes built - '72 Suzuki GT550 double sided drum hub up front, '75 KZ400 drum rear (With NOS belt-drive pulleys, looking for aftermarket belt from GATES, the Poly-chain GT Carbon belt builders!!!) and the RIMS I've bought are NOS also- Borrani flanged aluminum 3x16, and Akront 3.5x16 - the front's actually "for" Guzzi NX650 off-road (never heard of it?) and the rear's "for" - as opposed to FROM- a '90s Triumph 900 triple. Hurricane? I forget.

ANYWAY - the POINT of sixteen inch rims? Not only do they make radial sport-bike tires in these sizes, there are also brand new "Maxi-Scooter" tires - EVERYBODY is making them now whether it's Michelin Golden Standard or Pirelli City Demon - I'm fitting up 110/70-16 and 140/70-16...

"On WHAT???" You might ask? 1980 KZ440LTD! ... DON'T LAUGH! It's for my lil' GRRL's sweet sixteen. She loves the scooter I got her for her fourteenth, she's really a scooter-jockey at heart. So, I said I'd build it "scooter-ish". At least, so far as the wheels and low center of gravity are concerned. Plus the 440 is really only as FAST as some scooters. However, the wide small-diameter light-weight alloy wheels and the belt-drive (for power transmission purposes as much as keeping designer jeans free of chain grease!) will add up to some speed parts. The current belt pulley ratio will be 22:65, but 22:60 is also available - I think that it should equal a torque up-grade. Though, it's tempting to put on a huge rear sprocket and run it like a stunt bike! I've got the twin cable lever on the right bar (clip-on or club-man, she STILL hasn't decided - I've recently threatened to make the decision myself, then use black DILDO SLEEVES for hand grips. And a bumper stick er I found on e-bay: (inexplicably a bumper sticker, nevertheless understandable depending on the intended OWNER of said bumper-sticker): "I LOVE MY DOUBLE ENDED DILDO"

A friend in high-school had one on his stick-shift in his car. But he also had a really hot girl-friend, so at that point I wasn't sure whether I wantet to sniff it or not.... It was FUNNY though!

So yeah, TRYING to pressure her to decide on handle-bars. Though, I'm beginning whether she and the intended passenger seat resident, her pretty young BFF (that's "best friend forever" as opposed to "BF" if you get my meaning), wouldn't actually WANT the bumper sticker....

AHEM. As I was saying ... I mean hey - if she was my SON you wouldn't think it was creepy of me to be rooting for him to play stink-finger with the girl next door ... perhaps "rooting" is a poor choice of words.... When she was little, I used to say "You know what I REALLY wanted was a boy..." and at the same time her mother and I used to say "... when you grow up and you have a domestic-partnership with a woman ... or if you got married I suppose, if you wanted to do what everybody else does and run off a cliff with all the other lemmings ... we just don't want you to get pregnant as a teen-ager so could you just date chicks until you're older instead of the other way 'round like all the other women do ... listen there's a time for everything in this life and it's called COLLEGE...."

Which is why I laughed so hard at the following, and not least of all for the resemblance(s):

http://youtu.be/UTBadStsjJo

Oh BUGGER I coudn't find the cartoon version. Ah, but still - and don't tell her I said so - but on a bad morning she looked a bit like Ricky. And me, I'm sort of a cross between Stephen's glasses and Carl's hair....

OKAY, so anyway maybe I'll put some bumpy flesh-toned grips on 'em whether they're club-mans OR clip-ons, MY POINT is that I've got the twin-cable brake lever, NOS of course, but on the LEFT side I've found a twin-lever for two seperate functions. And I was thinking along the lines of a rear brake "emergency" lever for stunt-riding. Like, when you're standing on the passenger back-rest and your foot can't reach the pedal. See, everybody's so BLOWN AWAY at stunt riding, but really they've got everything under control. And the HUGE rear sprockets make it easy to do a wheelie on ANYTHING. Hell, I used to do better wheelies and cat-walks on my C70 Passport - AND ENDOS MIND YOU so I don't wanna hear SHIT about drum brakes being any less safe than disc brakes!!!!

It's a light-weight small displacement "girl's bike", albeit it's gonna belong to a GRRL ... who's a hundred pounds soaking wet. This bike doesn't NEED killer brakes. Hell, the whole concept behind my special wheels here, it started with putting on the same floating 310mm rotors and CBX calipers on CB900FZ front end as I've got for my DOHC - and I said "Hell, for the same six hundred bucks I could have a GT750 drum!!!" but ONLY because I knew that the dics would be over-kill on this little bike! I mean, the C70 front drum, I dunno if it's 80mm or 100mm max, it was sufficient for very sport two-up riding. At the very least, I expect the drum to work as well as a period dual-disc system. And being that I'm ventillating it - HYPER-VENTILLATING ha ha - the drums and the shoe plates and doing OVER-KILL on the race-modifications to these drum brakes, I figure it will definitely be superior to a period twin-disc which I happen to know is waaaay over-kill because I've run my '82 CB750F really freakin' hard - hard enough to kill a recently re-built (albeit second-hand, as it was a police auction bike seized in lieu of SPEEDING tickets ha ha) I killed that motor in two summers. Ran it at 200km/h minimum, took it up to a wrapped-needle indicated speed of 275km/h on my fist run. Down a new black-top, slightly down-hill straight back high-way with a 100 km/h tail-wind, on an early November morning with an impending hoar-frost with temp hovering well below freezing but a very dry condition of a post-drought summer etc etc- basically cold-air injection, water injection from the fog in the air, etc etc. But it pulled a good 250 plus without groaning. I'd wanna repeat the first ride if it weren't for the fact I was speeding just to get it over with as quickly as possible out of a very real fear of death by EXPOSURE.... But yeah, I found the twin disc brakes on that DOHC more than adequate. Seldom did I use the third disc.

Whatever. I've TOLD you about the sixteen inch rims and maxi-scooter tires trick. So you get my point.

The FUCHS rims would best be replicated with the comstar. It's a best compromise between the lightness of a wire spoked rim and the stiff-ness of a cast mag. Though, I maintain that period spokes were ENGINEERED to suplement suspension, and as such my custom extra-heavy-duty spokes from Buchanan's should make for wire rims that are equally stiff as any cast mag you can throw a stick at. Yet far far lighter. Plus, the smaller diameter of the sixteen inch rims, as well as the 18" front on my DOHC, if not the heavier rear 160/60 tire - at least I'm sealing the rims with silicone like the Team Incomplete BMW Boxer race bike, and hey I've apprenticed for five years to a master aquarium builder, I KNOW my silicone!!! So yeah, they'll still be tube-less tires that should at least save some weight right there. IN ANY CASE they're gonna give less rolling resistance.

IF you ask me, the best thing you can do is give the same profile as the wheels you like, but another nod of the head to automotive aesthetics is the smaller wider tires. So, a sport-bike tire is a good option. That said, the standard 18" comstar - GL1100 front and CB900F rear - this gives 2.50" front and rear. As opposed to what? 1.85"x19 and 2.15"x18"??? It opens up a whole range of tires to you. There IS a 3" or 3.5" rear comstar available, from Team Honda CB1100R factory racers, but they're "unobtainium". If you think Comstars are crappy wheels - first of all WHO are you listening to and consider the source while you're at it - IF you believe they're "cheap", well compare them to the "ASTRALITE" period aftermarket rims. The Lester rims were for a very specific period of time, they filled a gap during the early '70s - but NOT on proper race bikes! Maybe magnesium Italian wheels, but not heavy aluminum stuff ... in any case Lesters are mostly 1.85x19 and 2.15x18" just like stock wire spoked rims. They were meant for tube-less (now redundant for the savvy former aquarium nut-case) and to a lesser extent for ostensible stiff-ness as opposed to wire spoked rims. Probably crummy suspension was where the problem laid...

Lesters are NOT performace wheels. They're expensive these days because old dudes want a bike off a magazine cover from years and years ago. Comstars are FAAAR superior rims. Look at the RS1000/RCB SOHC/DOHC cross-breed race-bikes of the late '70s, THIS is where Honda REALLY kicked ass. Sure, the CR750 had it's day, but the RCB was the evolved version of Honda's race bike. Mean-while, the GOLD-WING was Honda's fastest store-bought Honda of the day. And the best drag-bike donor of the day was the Suzuki GT750 I don't CARE what you say about your Zed. Some of those GT's with simple porting were making 140 horses AND they were a hell of a lot lighter to boot. All of the GP stuff was 500cc two stroke for what, the next twenty years? The KZ, the CB, etc - these were the basis of ENDURANCE racers. And the U.S. "Superbike" series, which was just like European/Australian/Japanese Endurance racing only without the right-hand corners ha ha ha and with waaaay less racing overall being that Indy 500 is over long before TWENY-FOUR HOURS has transpired. 'Nuff said.

Porshe is much better known for European racing than it's known for American limited series racing, I think given the similar styles in Motorcycle Endurance Racing and Automotive RALLY-CAR as well as Endurance racing too - I think if you're looking at PORSCHE at the same time as CB750, what you need to look to is the RCB/RS1000 these are the bikes with the most similar styles - a dude on CB1100F.net, his name is "Jean-Louis" he's built replicas that would blow your freakin' MIND. I think a good SOHC or DOHC endurance replica with Porsche factory racing colours would get your point across very clearly.

It's not far fetched. I've seen Ducatis with GT40 Ford robin's-egg-blue and breakfast-orange. Others have done the ducati homage to Ferrari. Though, if you ask me the shoe should be on the other FOOT!!!! Arghhhh.... You damned Auto types need to put your car bullshit on hold and take the time to cultivate better tastes in bikes. Pragmatic truths and historical practices notwithstanding, the motorcycle is NOT the poor man's automobile!!!

-Sigh.
 
Yamaha XS mag wheels. Affordable and will work just fine. Do a little work and they'll fit on your Honda.
 
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I don't think they looks anything like Fuchs but if the Lesters would work for ya, this is a much cheaper alternative along the same lines.

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