Mystery Cast Wheels

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Hey guys!

Do you know where these wheels are off?
Is it yamaha?

Thought about putting them on my Yam RD.
Any help appreciated!

 

[DohcBikes]

those are Suzuki wheels

 

[canyoncarver]

Yep, early Tempter or similar.

 

[hillsy]

Don't want to be nit-picky but they are not Tempter wheels - the pattern is slightly different.


They are a disc rear wheel too, so that rules out the Tempter and GS250/450's.


Either GS550/650/750/1000.

 

[DohcBikes]

Don't want to be nit-picky but they are not Tempter wheels - the pattern is slightly different.


They are a disc rear wheel too, so that rules out the Tempter and GS250/450's.


Either GS550/650/750/1000.

And the rear is an 18" which limits the models even further.

Enkei makes the wheels, I have a nice set for sale as well, these are gs550e wheels.

 

[Drewski]

There were some old vintage wheels that looked something like those as well. I can't remember the name but they were of the "Lester Wheels era". The name will come to me eventually.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Thanks guys for the insight!the owner just wrote me that they were mounted on a egli honda.
Are they worth the money?
Do they tend to crack,they look pretty fragile

 

[hillsy]

Cant say I've ever known Suzuki mags to crack or fail (apart from impact / abuse) but then again I was most active with those bikes about 15 years ago but they're approaching being 40 years old now so I don't know how they are going to behave after this long.


Probably will be OK though.

 

[hillsy]

There were some old vintage wheels that looked something like those as well. I can't remember the name but they were of the "Lester Wheels era". The name will come to me eventually.

These ones?


Henry Abe:

Shelby Dowd:

 

[Drewski]

Ya, the Shelby Dowd wheels were the ones I was remembering. Thank you Sir!

 

[DohcBikes]

The Suzuki wheels do not tend to have issues, at least none of the seven sets I've had anyway. As far as value some love em and some don't so it's hit or miss.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Thank guys for your help!after all i wont buy these,since they weigh more than my stock RD cast wheels.
Looking for a lighter option besides spokes.

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

walk around with a backpack full of dog food for a day and you will see how heavy those turds are... If you are looking to "upgrade" the RD wheels, just save all winter and get some of these:

 

[jpmobius]

Are those going on an RD? What is the rear hub from?

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

Are those going on an RD? What is the rear hub from?

Euro 400 Hub

The difference of weight from mags to spokes. Weight includes tire, disk, sprocket and bearings.
Front rim is Excel 1.85 with 350 hub.
Rear rim is Excel 2.15 with Euro 400 Hub
Tires are BT45's. Front 100/80/18, Rear 110/80/18

Mag Spoke
Front 27 24
Rear 37.4 34
Total 64.4 58

Sooo nit really a huge drop, but the cool factor makes the really lite

 

[teazer]

RD wheels are pretty light. To lose weight, fit alloy rims and to save a little more get a pair of TZ250G wheels with magnesium hubs. TZ rims are also slightly lighter than most aftermarket rims.

Suzuki rims are heavy and good looking - much heavier than say the equivalent Suzuki spoked wheel assembly.

You can also get bearing spacers made out of aluminum but they need to be 0.25 - 0.50mm longer than the steel ones they replace.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

thanks guys for your input!

tune these wheels look awesome!

is it true that there a big difference riding a small cc bike with less "rotating mass"?how does it affect handling?

 

[Tune-A-Fish]

Man, I'm not over technical but I know you need balance when it comes to "rotating mass" some inertia is good and too much is bad for motors and wheel tire setup.

I would think a heavy front would be good for grip, but bad for braking and twitchy rolling on power so it's a give and take deal... Notice all (or most) of the new sport bikes have a steering damper of some sort, that's because they set the bike up to turn in but the effing thing will make an omelet out of your forearms when it gets light in the straights without it. Even the MX bikes have em now and those guys that ride AX and SX pull the balance (or used to) shaft out at AX to get that two stroke feeling hit out of the corners and that is eating the cases fast so... Balance and I know nadda of how without taking a good guess and paying attention.

 

[DohcBikes]

is it true that there a big difference riding a small cc bike with less "rotating mass"?how does it affect handling?

Yes, especially driven, rotating mass on a two stroke that makes most of its power at the top of the rpm band.

It will affect handling mostly through the suspension. While some may find that they need to revalve, change oil, or even springs, the vast majority of people that reduce rotating unsprung weight on a 30-40 year old stock bike are going to see an improvement ranging from minor to major in the suspension department, which greatly affects handling in almost every situation.

Sport bikes have a steering damper because they are at the limits of functional rake and trail in order to achieve stability at high speeds, which makes them susceptible to head shake in the event of irregular road surface issues. Not all MX riders prefer a damper. Balance shafts are for pussies.