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Wait -- did this go from 98mph (the Wikipedia posted top speed) to 90mph? There is some weird shit going on, but like a car crash I can't turn away.
UDouble said:
Wait -- did this go from 98mph (the Wikipedia posted top speed) to 90mph? There is some weird shit going on, but like a car crash I can't turn away.
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I haven't checked the wikipedia article, but I would question their source of the information.
But supposing that 98mph is true for a stock model, it's unlikely any of the CB350Fs running on their from-the-factory motor will be posting those speeds. That's probably on a fresh engine.
I haven't checked the wikipedia article, but I would question their source of the information.
But supposing that 98mph is true for a stock model, it's unlikely any of the CB350Fs running on their from-the-factory motor will be posting those speeds. That's probably on a fresh engine.
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Absolutely right -- but I'm guessing the wiki article got the info from a Honda factory source or that's the factory top mph that Honda cited when the bike came out. I've owned about a dozen over the last 20 years or so, including a keeper I've had for about 18. I would never think of going 90 on a daily rider unless I didn't care about what happened afterward (or during) and I doubt most bikes would get up to that speed. I keep my bikes tuned, so it's not a matter of tuning. Some engine work would get you up to a ton, but a stock engine wouldn't get you there I don't think.
The reason I cited the 98mph thing is that was the OP's original cited speed, but it's been changed to a more plausible (but still...) 90mph. Just a little wary of exaggerated claims of speed on a site where some people do achieve some pretty amazing feats of speed.
*** I should add: sprockets, of course.
Sonreir said:
Absolutely right -- but I'm guessing the wiki article got the info from a Honda factory source or that's the factory top mph that Honda cited when the bike came out. I've owned about a dozen over the last 20 years or so, including a keeper I've had for about 18. I would never think of going 90 on a daily rider unless I didn't care about what happened afterward (or during) and I doubt most bikes would get up to that speed. I keep my bikes tuned, so it's not a matter of tuning. Some engine work would get you up to a ton, but a stock engine wouldn't get you there I don't think.
The reason I cited the 98mph thing is that was the OP's original cited speed, but it's been changed to a more plausible (but still...) 90mph. Just a little wary of exaggerated claims of speed on a site where some people do achieve some pretty amazing feats of speed.
*** I should add: sprockets, of course.
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That'll definitely help acceleration.
It's a common misconception, but weight savings doesn't help top speed.
There are two ways to hit the ton: horsepower and streamlining.
Top speed is purely a function of power vs the coefficient of drag.
Nj732port said:
That'll definitely help acceleration.
It's a common misconception, but weight savings doesn't help top speed.
There are two ways to hit the ton: horsepower and streamlining.
Top speed is purely a function of power vs the coefficient of drag.
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Thanks for sciencing this to us
Sonreir said:
Thanks for sciencing this to us
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I wish it were that simple.Sonreir said:
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Plus gear ratios, wheel size, parasitic losses, friction, grip...
Plus gear ratios, wheel size, parasitic losses, friction, grip...
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HA! True.
HA! True.
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I'm siding with Sonreir on this one. Weight affects your acceleration, or how fast you can get to top speed, not the top speed itself. At top speed you are just pushing against the air (unless you are at redline in top gear, then you need to fix your gearing).
Reducing weight allows you to improve your acceleration in all directions, forward, braking, turning, which is generally thought of as your overall performance.
I'm siding with Sonreir on this one. Weight affects your acceleration, or how fast you can get to top speed, not the top speed itself. At top speed you are just pushing against the air (unless you are at redline in top gear, then you need to fix your gearing).
Reducing weight allows you to improve your acceleration in all directions, forward, braking, turning, which is generally thought of as your overall performance.
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One of the really interesting things that stuck with me over the years was when I was reading about LSR attempts at Bonneville. With many classes, once you start putting down some really decent speeds, wheel-driven vehicles become almost impossible to run. The amount of friction the wheels have to work with against the ground can't overcome the drag forces of the air the vehicle is cutting through. 200+ on a bike and your back wheel starts slipping on the salt.
One of the really interesting things that stuck with me over the years was when I was reading about LSR attempts at Bonneville. With many classes, once you start putting down some really decent speeds, wheel-driven vehicles become almost impossible to run. The amount of friction the wheels have to work with against the ground can't overcome the drag forces of the air the vehicle is cutting through. 200+ on a bike and your back wheel starts slipping on the salt.
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