hi and many thanx,but without getting in too deep here and sounding silly,which I hasten to add I can do very well!! blah,blah and blah! I ended up with this 1981 250N its not gonna be a renovation it will be a brat/bobber style. Picked it up 18 months ago and before I knew it,a year had passed with it sitting in her dads garage. December just there got it moved to my garage and started stripping it down which is where I am at the moment,the engine and frame are apart. Now at first I only thought of it as a cafe racer project,but that just ain't me anymore. The more stuff I looked at online,its more a rat bike thing I think am I correct? What I would like to do is clean the frame,wire brush whatever,clean off surface rust,that's all it is,then apply many coats of clear lacquer! Not really interested in the blasted,powder coated,primer,glossy top coats and lacquers! Not unheard of I am sure,any insight would be greatly appreciated,people look at you kinda funny when you try to explain it to them,cheers guys!