Your fastest and on what

I can't speak for others but in my youth I was (as they used to say) a tearaway. I spent way too much time in traffic court for street racing and speeding. At that time it was just a fine. To a 17 year old know it all it was no big deal. Until the traffic court judge looked over his bench and said "Bill, If I see you in here again in the next six months I'll take your license for a year". Thse were sobering words. Thats when I decided that going fast should be on a race track. I still tore around and street raced but with a less impunity.

I guess racing for the past 45+ years has made me a cynic. No time slip no believe. Most speedos are wildly optomistic. GPS is amazingly accurate. John Noonan was timed at 161 at Bonneville a few years back and the difference between the SCTA clocks and his GPS was less than 1 mph.

Bonneville records are an average of two runs over the same timed mile. El Mirage is a 1.3 mile run at the lights. Maxton, Loring, Texas and Mojave are all 1 mile courses. They are all paved courses. El Mirage is dirt.

Bonneville's altitude makes it difficult to get the set up right. The density altitude can go as high as 8000 ft.+ The highest DA I experienced at Bonneville this year was 7930 ft. The salt can vary. Last year it was damp to wet in the morning and like concrete in the afternoon. Most of the 'Busas and other large capacity bike have traction problems there. All of them have some sort of ballast bolted to the swing arm. If they could get grip like on asphalt or concrete most of them would be running 20-30 mph faster.

I'm not making fun of the claims here. I'm just not believing them all. As I said before with some of the claims here those bikes should be at Bonneville where they would become stars. I'll stick with no time slip, no believe.
 
dewjantim said:
Hey Louie....... I noticed you have had a lot to say about claims made on high speed runs, but you haven't posted your personal best........ come on brother.....let us in on your dirty little speed secret. I know you had to have a speedo on something so fess up....... just don't tell me you did 126 on a CB550 unless it was pushed from an airplane with you on it :o :o :o . ........ hehehehe.

I have no claims... you've lost me on your cb550 remark? Could you be a little clearer?
 
I have to go with Brother Louie on the drinking and driving deal, especially at high speed. We all have family, friends, loved ones, and Brothers on the road.

We also have a lot of impressional younger members here as well that we should be setting an example for, not talking about how getting trashed and ripping off high speed runs is "cool", because it is not.
 
Thanks Hoof for backing me up on conditions at the flats and how they effect speed. Louie, Louie, Louie... trying to put words in my mouth. Now look over what I have said....... did I accuse you of being anything?
No, I did not. I do not think you are any of those things you said you were accused of being. By all means, the least being a rocker. Also, did I say somewhere that I was drunk while speeding down the road looking to kill your family. Go back and reread my post. I did say I was drunk in my pal's Bronco...... I also said I was scared $hitle$$...... he was driving, not me. Hell I even begged him to slow down. You know...... he really could have been after your family. He might even be afraid of what you are thinking at this moment..... don't bet on it though. I often wonder why that people say things like that on forums? It really surprised me that you did after reading many of your posts. I am disappointed to say the least..... thought you were the better man. As for my morals........ I really don't care...... Just for the record though, I don't get drunk and drive and a lot of what I posted was said in jest. Yeah, jest to see who would take the bait. Guess what... the fish I caught was you. And that is all I have to say......no hard feelings buddy, not on this side anyway...... ;) ;) ;)
 
pacomotorstuff said:
Wow!
I don't think I've seen this much response to a DTT post since I suggested we all build a bike together and I'd supply the 'glass (but I digress).
And a lot of vitriol, as well, unfortunately.
Good to see we all hang together so well as a "club" and enjoy each other as people and riders.
Anyway, I can't speak for the "others" who have posted their high speeds on their various rides but...
As far as my Yam 350 ride, after all these years with this bike (which I still have after 42 years), allowing for instrument error and all that, hey I can only tell you what the speedo was reading when I backed off. If you can, track down the Royal Enfield 750 rider whose back wheel I was chewing on when common sense overrode 17 year-old testosterone - he might have a story of his own. I'm trying to get the bike back in good enough shape to ride again and if any of you naysayers want to, let's find a long straight and go for it.
As far as my '89 Taurus SHO, Car and Driver got 141 mph out of their test buggy (14 mph faster than the baddest ass 1989 Mustang available that year) and theirs was bone stock. Mine wasn't. It's long gone - one of the best cars I ever owned.
Regarding the 747 ride, phone or email Air Canada or Transport Canada (I'll find the flight number if you're so inclined) and you can get their spin on it as well. 705 mph groundspeed, it's in the record.
No, I've never been to Bonneville and probably never will be, have never fought 3 years to get 2mph there, but to post innuendo and diss other club members, well geez I'm not certain that's what Tim and Noel had in mind when they started this club...
And maybe we should all think back to what "Do the Ton" means, anyway - I had to explain it to one or two people when I was on the DTT booth first thing Sunday morning.
So, when was the first time you did over 100 mph anyway? Mine was 1969...
Have a good day.
Regards,
Pat Cowan,
Vintage Motorcycle Fiberglass / Pacomotorstuff

If memory serves,the 89 Taurus SHO was powered by a specially built YAMAHA DOHC V-6 that put out well over 250 hp stock.If it wouldnt do in excess of 140mph,Ill bet a lot of SHO owners were unhappy souls.First time the ton:1956-bike-Zundapp 601 opposed twin.Last time the ton:Last week,bike 86 Yamaha 600 Radian.And lots of times in between.Oh excuse me-"Those figures are subject to speedo error"--disclaimer.bj
 
Alright- at risk of incriminating myself, I'll admit I've been up to
155mph indicated on my '86 vf1000r. And I kept it there for a good ten minutes. Bouncing off the rev limiter in top gear the whole time. I could have gone a lot faster with a sixth gear...
 
Hey Joey, don't think that any of the younger guys on here look up to me as a role model. And, hey, I even smoked a joint.....once..... don't worry though, I didn't inhale.
 
dewjantim said:
Thanks Hoof for backing me up on conditions at the flats and how they effect speed. Louie, Louie, Louie... trying to put words in my mouth. Now look over what I have said....... did I accuse you of being anything?
No, I did not. I do not think you are any of those things you said you were accused of being. By all means, the least being a rocker. Also, did I say somewhere that I was drunk while speeding down the road looking to kill your family. Go back and reread my post. I did say I was drunk in my pal's Bronco...... I also said I was scared $hitle$$...... he was driving, not me. Hell I even begged him to slow down. You know...... he really could have been after your family. He might even be afraid of what you are thinking at this moment..... don't bet on it though. I often wonder why that people say things like that on forums? It really surprised me that you did after reading many of your posts. I am disappointed to say the least..... thought you were the better man. As for my morals........ I really don't care...... Just for the record though, I don't get drunk and drive and a lot of what I posted was said in jest. Yeah, jest to see who would take the bait. Guess what... the fish I caught was you. And that is all I have to say......no hard feelings buddy, not on this side anyway...... ;) ;) ;)

Yup! you've exposed me... All my true colors are revealed. I have zero tolerance for DUI. And anyone who makes light of it, for my own "very" personal reasons.
 
Hey Dewjantim, I meant to add, seeing that you are a huge BMW fan, that Luftmeister, a blown 1000cc BMW ridden by Matt Capri, ran 206.100 at El Mirage in 1994. A record that still stands. He also took the blown fuel record at 202.002 in '94. That record also still stands. I certainly would not advocate 200+ on public roads. Empty roads or not. At those speeds you are a passenger that merely holds the throttle open. John Noonan can run 250+ on his 'Busa. At El Mirage you get one mile to stop. Granted its a dirt lake but it still takes John the full mile to get down to around 50 mph and make the turn out.
 
Yeah Hoof, I know about Matt..... and that BMW still looks cool even after all these years. A couple of years ago I heard he had an old airhead (my fave) which would do 145, on a racetrack of course. That had to be the fastest airhead in the world. I love those bikes, they are so simple and easy to work on and will even hustle down the road at a pretty good clip..... till ya' drag the heads....hehehe. As for it taking a long way to stop from high speeds....... when I took my Duc up to nine grand in top ("indicated" 150) and still gaining speed, I saw some traffic about a half mile ahead and hammered the brakes. It took a while to slow and when I did the traffic was closer than most would think and that was no where near 200 mph.
 
you know it gets pretty tiring "listening" to some you guys wank off. This is at best nothing more than a bench racing session, spare some beer and the ladies making fun of dejantim for being a blowhard. Give it a fucking break....this is supposed to be fun...not an E-dick measuring contest.

Swaps is good in my book...

Shall we remember we're all guys here and step away from the tampon vending machine?
 
I do think most of us here that have been riding for more than a year understand that speedometers vary widely and often far from reality. No need to cast aspersions on someone's experiences, it's all about the fun. My R90S indicated 125 but I never thought that was the dead nuts on top speed for the thing, but it was hauling butt on Angeles Forest Highway in 1974.

As for GPS speeds, my Aprilia(s) seemed to match up pretty well to the GPS but the GPS on my ATV indicated once that I'd gone 142 mph. I'm pretty sure that wasn't entirely accurate for a 2-place Arctic Cat. ;)

Doug
 
Swapmeet Louie said:
If it's fact, than which is it? 200 or 210? What I wrote was an actual recorded real life speeds by the SCTA of the "recorded" fastest Hayabusa in the world. Which had unlimited body and chassis mods, Turbo's, running on fuel not gas, etc.

10 mph discreptancy is huge @ those speeds. Some Teams work for yrs to gain just a few mph increase in there average.

I'm not try to argue with you man. It just proves my point of how ridiculous "some" of these posts are.

No worries at all, I understand what you're saying 100%.

Anyway, I think its closer to 200mph vmax as I think the original bike was apparently good for 320km/h... just did the translation then and its almost bang on 200mph. That, of course, was lab tested with a tiny freakin rider model - if you've seen the picture I have then you know its ridiculous. It looks about the size of your average 10 year old.

As an aside, due to the elevation at Boneville the speeds are usually down on what you'd be able to achieve at sea level, right? I mean, they've just got that awesome saltlake there...

- boingk
 
Swagger...... I resemble that blowhard remark. I think you are just jealous that my E-dick is bigger than yours. And.......Louie......Louie.....where are ya' Louie and how fast ya' been. All seriousness aside guys..... this is fun and I don't care who gives me a hard time....... or even if you believe me or not ;) ;) ;) . Lets all try and make it to the Northern Ohio run and see who is behind all these words..... face to face. Let me warn you...... I am 5'7, 145 lbs, and totally full of shit. Also I run at the slightest sign of trouble..... you have been WARNED !!!!!!
 
dewjantim said:
Swagger...... I resemble that blowhard remark. I think you are just jealous that my E-dick is bigger than yours. And.......Louie......Louie.....where are ya' Louie and how fast ya' been. All seriousness aside guys..... this is fun and I don't care who gives me a hard time....... or even if you believe me or not ;) ;) ;) . Lets all try and make it to the Northern Ohio run and see who is behind all these words..... face to face. Let me warn you...... I am 5'7, 145 lbs, and totally full of shit. Also I run at the slightest sign of trouble..... you have been WARNED !!!!!!

I rode with a dude who has the same dimensions as you, perhaps a few pounds lighter. He rode a nicely tuned ZX1100. That combo was just like a jockey on a thoroughbred. Most of my riding buddies were runners. Two of them actually had toggle switches to turn off their tail lights! Crazy bastards. :-D
 
I stole the E-dick remark from Swagger...... don't want to get into a copyright infringement suit..... ;D ;D ;D
 
I had a toggle switch for my tail and a magnetic tag flip that I fabed up myself on my CBR929RR. When you thought a situation was about to arise, just reach back and flip the tag up, flip the toggle on the tail light, and twist the throttle!

Like I said before though, I was 19-21 when I had that bike, I thought I was superman, and I could never be caught or be killed. I never even thought of those things. I did very stupid things so I am amazed I may it through hose years. I am not concerned about if Louie believes my claims of speed (mine being around 180), I think that anyone who has ever ridden a serious sport bike will know that those speeds are easily obtainable. I never got my CBR to a top speed (where it was red lined) but I know that it was not much more than the 180 mark because that is about the point where the bike stopped climbing at a decent rate. I did do most of this type of riding on public roads, but I live in a rather rural area and had places to ride where traffic was rarely seen during the hours I was riding at those speeds. I am an adult now that makes much much better decisions, and would never drive or act that way again. I do still love speed, so I believe that is my allure to vintage bikes. Doing the ton on a small cc vintage bike is more like that 150 mark on a sport bike.
 
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