1976 CB360t Slightly modded, restored to roadworthiness - Workin' on Beauty

Re: 1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

Yeah, that almost happened to me as well, right after I got mine running we had to loosen the brakes up slightly and took it for a spin around the block. Brought it back, hit the rear brake in the drive way and THUNCK!! end of all forward progress. I don't use much rear break except for stopping or turning into my yard, I have a gravel driveway and I like control.

They are cheap insurance too, better to order a set before you even pull the old ones out to look at them. I wish Brendon had his site when I was building mine.

Glad your OK, things can get nasty in a hurry. :D
 
Re: 1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

Some updates with pics.

first. the new carburetor manifolds from Dime City Cycles. I ordered them from DCC because they had them in stock (better price then E-Bay) and they deliver quickly. I did not know they would be OEM Honda... :)

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In a previous post, I ordered little voltmeters to put in my Tach as well as a new face. I made some progress on that.

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I siliconed the gauge in, covered it up to protect it. Next I need to add the new inlay. I need to get some dayglo orange paint first, to paint the needle tip. I also need some slightly better weather when I am home to clean up and paint the rest of the gauge parts.

I usually wouldn't go so modern, but the voltmeter was $2.50 shipped and too good of a deal to pass up. I can better monitor the charging system while riding.

I also ordered a load of stuff from Zephyrking at hondacb360.com
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Push and pull throttle cables (hard to find new), tach cable, the brakes and the clamps.

The clamps have an extra piece covering the screw slots to protect the carb manifold boots
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You can see I have front brakes on hand but it was the rear that surprised me with the de-lamination lock up. . I sent a note to Hondacb360.com at 10 PM that I needed rear brakes. At 1 am (I seen it the next morning), I had a response telling me it was shipped, and an invoice, which I promptly paid. They have been a great resource. I do recommend him. So the rear brakes are in the mail.
Finally, I have my bulk filter foam from Amazon.com. I am going to replace the old paper elelments on the stock airboxes with this. I am going to ditch the UNI pods, and go stock airbox. The bike ius running well with the UNI 4 Inch foam pods, but the intake noise just adds to the din of the exhaust. I need it quieter.
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Re: 1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

Those voltmeters are neat - can I ask where you got them from? I'm very interested in how you use the foam to replace the paper filters as well!
 
1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

Ryan,

Voltmeter: Item #:271031562305
$2.41 free shipping. I bought 3.

I'll document the foam replacement when I do it. Essentially I am going to remove the paper part and hot glue the foam in its place.


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Have fun with the leftover glue, that stuff is seriously tough to get out. I think on one that I have done I had to use a torch finally to scorch the backside of the housing to help pop loose the stuff. Its a great mod though, a lot nicer to be able to wash the filters out and put them back on since the OEM replacements are few and far between and $$$$.

You will still have some of the throatiness from the intake system, but it will dull it down.
 
1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

The OEM for the 74,75 model are available, though pricey. The 1976 filters just aren't there. They have bolts and mounts different then the earlier models.

I have a k&n filter in my NH750, stock air box. I like just cleaning and re-oiling.

I have k&n on all my vehicles, have for years.


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I know that all to well, I added 76 CJ housings and filters to my 74, because I like the way they look over the plastic side covers. Took ages to find a new set of air filters. Finally found some here on DTT.
 
1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

I bought a set of air boxes on here to on a part out. Turned out they were pretty fresh. I have a spare set now. Allows me to have time when I need to clean the foam ones.


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Thanks for the voltmeter link - I bought a few of them to play with. Hondas have left me stranded due to charging system woes so many times that I'm hoping this will at least give me enough warning so I can already have the bike aimed at the side of the road when the ignition cuts out ;D

As for the air box work, I wonder if it would be possible to use a K&N pod filter inside the metal air box? That might provide enough restriction that a full on rejet wouldn't be needed. It would be something like carb -> carb to air box rubber -> inside airbox[short piece of tube -> K&N pod]. But I'm just speculating...
 
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A couple of things. the stock air box has LESS restriction then the pods. I show this when I redo the filter. The filter area for stock, is BOTH filters, left and right. One stock filter has more surface area (less restriction) then a Pod. Pods are restrictive. The actually reduce performance. The other advantage to the stock airbox is the long inlet, the rubber tube from the filter to the carb. CV carbs like smooth airflow. Pods are more turbulent, so the slide does not work as well with a pod. Finally, the airbox provides a plenum, a large mass of still air. This contributes to the smoothness of the air entry into the carb, as well as makes sure both the left and right carbs see the same atmospheric pressure and air temperature on the inlet. While not so different on a twin, 4 cyl with pods have hotter air in the center, with a different air pressure. on 4 cylinder bikes, you really have to adjust the jets on each cylinder individually to get it dialed in.

The UNI foam, oiled. we be close to stock in pressure drop. PODs are higher pressure drop....
The foam UNI pod works pretty well for me. As I said, I am stock on the carbs.

I believe many people blame the carburetor jetting when in fact, the problem is elsewhere. Pods just aggravate the issue.
 
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mydlyfkryzis said:
A couple of things. the stock air box has LESS restriction then the pods. I show this when I redo the filter. The filter area for stock, is BOTH filters, left and right. One stock filter has more surface area (less restriction) then a Pod. Pods are restrictive. The actually reduce performance. The other advantage to the stock airbox is the long inlet, the rubber tube from the filter to the carb. CV carbs like smooth airflow. Pods are more turbulent, so the slide does not work as well with a pod. Finally, the airbox provides a plenum, a large mass of still air. This contributes to the smoothness of the air entry into the carb, as well as makes sure both the left and right carbs see the same atmospheric pressure and air temperature on the inlet. While not so different on a twin, 4 cyl with pods have hotter air in the center, with a different air pressure. on 4 cylinder bikes, you really have to adjust the jets on each cylinder individually to get it dialed in.

The UNI foam, oiled. we be closed to stock in pressure drop. PODs are higher pressure drop....
The foam UNI pod works pretty well for me. As I said, I am stock on the carbs.

I believe many people blame the carburetor jetting when in fact, the problem is elsewhere. Pods just aggravate the issue.
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I am totally on board w that. I ran pods for two seasons. I installed the Uni's this winter and my machine has NEVER run better. My plan for today is do a couple chops above 6000rpm. just to see if it requires any more jet/needle tweaking.
 
Re: 1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

What came in the mail today??? Glad you asked!!

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Thanks to Zephyrking at HondaCB360.com. I sent an e-mail to him at 10PM Wednesday night. Received them today. GREAT service. Thanks Brenden.

Installed them, installed the fronts too.

Checked everything (tire pressures, loose bolts, etc) and ran another errand. Went 30 miles.

So what went wrong today.

Again, Sophie was running fine. The new caps, the boots, she was dressed for Church (Motorcycle Religion church).

About 3 miles from the house, uhoh, a missed, a sputter, all of a sudden running on one cylinder. My first thought is the petcock. Maybe left off, maybe low on gas? But I just filled her up.

I look down, a fuel line fell off the filter. I left a mile long trail of gas (not flames luckily, the exhaust is on the same side).

Kill the petcock, pull to the side. Reinstall the line. I must of knocked it loose when I put the chain on. I had the Sprocket cover off. Learned to double check the gas line next time.

Line back on, and finish the errand.

She ran very well. Had the high beam on (35W/35W) so the marker lights would be off. When I go t back, I let her sit. checked the battery volts 12.89V. Excellent. The Kohler regulator is working, the bike is running. I am happy.

I will be riding her more often. I believe I have a good chance of reliability now.

When PamcoPete gets the electronic ignition done, I will be even happier.

Sophie says Hi! too...
 
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sweet
 
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I installed the "new" front fender today. Thanks to AZHonda. I gets pics later....

I am also going to go back to the old round, stock mirrors. I have plastic, rectangular black ones. They were purchased from JCWhitney back in the 80's. E-Bay has surplanted JCWhitney for the "cheap" stuff lately. Whitney no longer caries what I need.

I used to get the brakes (the ones that delaminated), My finned alternator cover (still have it), the ignition switch relocation bracket (made my own now)...

They were the place for parts like that before the internet. Now we have a dizzying array of cheap parts that don't work..LOL...But still, I learn a lot from the internet, I often wonder how we survived without it.
 
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Went on a 40 mile ride tonight. Sophie was in a good mood. Noticed my speedo backlighting was out, but I was playing around with the speedo cable when I changed the front fender. I might of knocked a wire loose.

She ran beautiful. Was dark on the trip home. I have an old 5 1/4 H4 reflector in the headlight with a 35/35W bulb. Lighting was adequate, but better then the old Stanley bulb.

I had light on both ways, checked battery volts after shutdown, was 13.1. so the Kohler regulator is doing it's job so far. when I get the voltmeter done on my spare tach, I'll know what's going as I ride.

So I still have sore facial muscles from my big smile. this was my first date with Sophie that had no drama. She ran fine, never missed a beat. Started easily both cold leaving, and after sitting outside the 2 hour meeting I was at.

I need to finish upgrading the old tach, install the new throttle cables, give her another bath. The new chain has thrown oil over the new rims. Plus she is dusty from being in the basement.

Happy Night..
 
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Sweet.
 
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Great to know it's all good.
New reg/rec is always a good idea ;)
Saw an interesting post from 2001 about putting a capacitor in battery circuit, helps smooth out voltage spikes with permanent magnet/kickstart systems.
Not sure if it would help electric start though?
 
1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

Would reduce ripple. But the battery does that. Since there are no electronics either, a little ripple isn't hurting anything.


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Re: 1976 CB360t Slightly modified restore to roadworthiness - Beauty later project

Took Sophie to work. The men at work really liked her lines...LOL

Another 35 miles on the clock. She ran well. I noticed a little oil weep at the head gasket on both left and right sides. I am going to retorque the short bolts that I replaced with stainless. The leak is right near the bolts under the sparkplug.

I am getting to trust her to get me where I am going and get me home.

I did have a moment of concern. I have a 4 mile downhill stretch on the way to work...on the way down, she started missing on one cylinder....Checked fuel lines, left looked dry. Put the petcock on reserve, and fuel flowed. The Downhill stretch is long enough that the regular standpipe in the tank was uncovered long enough to let the carb run dry. Once leve, put the petcock to normal, and went to work and back on the tank. Filled up just before getting home, but uphill is no issue.
 
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Glad it's running so well!
 
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