Honda CB550 four.. single carb.

I'm in albany now.
Still more issues then the fuel.
And the cam two comentation is funny as hell.

I've run lots of stuff old and new on pump gas.
Zero issues.
That's link is mostly propaganda junk, gives people something to point to when they can't make junk run.

Will say that startron stuff works well.
I use it in stuff that sits of mine.
 
What possible good could cam two do for an old bike?
Are you going to try and say old gas was better?
Or that's it's what they are designed to run on it?

In order to think outside the box, you need to understand the box fairly well.

Using cam2 in a stock vehicle is a beacon on dumb.
Right up there with pods, lack of fenders, lowered bikes and clubland.
Just monkey see monkey do.
But now my rants are going sideways.
 
surffly said:
What possible good could cam two do for an old bike?
Are you going to try and say old gas was better?
Or that's it's what they are designed to run on it?

In order to think outside the box, you need to understand the box fairly well.

Using cam2 in a stock vehicle is a beacon on dumb.
Right up there with pods, lack of fenders, lowered bikes and clubland.
Just monkey see monkey do.
But now my rants are going sideways.
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Lowered bikes are useful for short folks... hehe.

Corn gas has one effect that furks us all and that is the lack of efficiency... less MPG, the theory that valves suffer has been addressed to some extent and if you have umbrellas and sloppy guides already you won't know the diff, as for gas turning to caramel in the bowls... not so much... howbout those cheap carb kits though... cheah one of these and one of those and that gasket fits good enough... could that be the urshoe?
 
Ethanol is a great way to increase octane ratings of fuel without using TEL (Lead) or MTB E or Benzene or any of the other poisonous chemicals tried in the past. Pure ethanol has less energy per gallon than gasoline, so you will tend to use a little more and if jetted correctly will not lose power. An engine modified to run on 100% alcohol will make a lot more power than one set up for regular gasoline. On stock old spec jetting the bike will tend to run slightly leaner than it would back in the day

Alcohol is a more aggressive solvent than gasoline and lacks the lubricity but at 10% blend it's not an issue. It will tend to cause deterioration in old style seals over time. New seals are formulated slightly differently to allow for that.

CAM2 is the same that Sunoco used prior to 1992 and they still sell it under that brand name to some users. Sunoco have a range of race fuels with different octane ratings and some use ethanol as a knock inhibitor AFAIK.
 
Ok listen. I'm keeping this friendly but if ethanol isn't a problem (as in attracting water) which does cause problems ... Why are you running star tron then? There should be no reason for you to do so. I think you are reading way to far into my comments and assuming a lot of things, I certainly made a vague statement...
Cam2 doesn't have any ethanol.... Hence eliminating the problem with storing bikes with modern gas in it and having modern fuel in fuel bowls. Anywho anyone want to talk about carbs and fuel injection again?


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I only ever use startron in a tank that I know will be sitting, because yes the fuel attacks water.
Other then that I have had zero issues with the 10% ethanol fuel on any of my bikes.

Cam2 might not have ethanol in it, so what? You dont run diesel do you?

Use the right tools for the job......
Cam2 aint it.
 
Come back to bay shore buddy. Let's have a beer. Seems you need a few. Still not listening to what I'm saying.


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The only tool Im using right now is you and I believe I'm doing it proper ;) Good luck with your next carb rebuild.


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Since you seem to be using the term CAM2 to refer to "race Fuel" I refer you to this comment on the Sunoco race fuel sitre

http://www.racegas.com/article/11

Back to alcohol and water. Ethanol does tend to absorb moisture from the air and that leads to phase separation and that leads to corrosion. Many race fuesl use ethanol or methanol and they typically tell the operator to drain it from the system at the end of the race day for that and other reasons.

In a bike that runs regularly ethanol is not a problem. Left over the winter with half a tank of fuel - not so much....

But isn't this thread about a single carb conversion?
 
jamesbekman said:
The only tool Im using right now is you and I believe I'm doing it proper ;) Good luck with your next carb rebuild.


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Dont need any luck.
I just use the correct parts and set them up right.
No need to use black magic.
Dont even need to talk about "race fuel" or other BS.

Like I said, just do the job right and no need to worry.
But you seem to be doing just fine.

Next time I am out at O'Reilly's for wings and a burger I will let you know.
More then happy to do this in person, heck I might even be able to help solve your fuel system issue.
 
Internet boards are so much fun!

Going to have to talk to ichiban, wonder what he does for fuel
 
I use U4.4 and it is OK to leave in all day.....It's a so called smart fuel and it will steal all your tuning secrets and send them to the cloud (of smoke)
 
This is 3 miles away, plus there are a dozen or so non-ethanol fuel stations within 20 mile radius. The good stuff is everywhere.

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I'd be surprised if anyone didn't have some corn free juice somewhere near them.
 
teazer said:
I use U4.4 and it is OK to leave in all day.....It's a so called smart fuel and it will steal all your tuning secrets and send them to the cloud (of smoke)
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Was breaking the air... I used U4 and Motul back in the MX premix days, But don't tell TiLube haha!
 
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