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I totally understand where you are coming from. Not everyone can get what you get nor does everyone want what you get. Not saying it's you but what irks me is people who bad mouth the price of a quality coating job just because a rattle can inferior job is good enough for them. You can't drive a Ferrari for the price of a VW even though they both get you to your destination.
Now tell what fender and front forks are on your bike, please.
People with bikes just about always complain about the cost of stuff, from what I've seen, SWAN is the only money no object to get things 100% right (although I haven't read every single thrad or project build)
I'm a damn good bike mechanic and know a lot but can I get paid even close to what I'm worth?
Nope, bikes are simple so everyone can DIY stuff
I play with carbs as a hobby, but I couldn't make a living at it even if I wanted to, I've really only had one person who was happy to pay for ALL the work (although most people have been real good and never complained when things have gone wrong or I've taken way over estimated time to ix stuff)
There are plenty of posts here saying how fantastic various carb set-ups are, even though I know for a fact the set-up can't work properly as I tried most of them in the 70's ~ 80's
Mediocrity seems to be the order of the day, near enough IS good enough
I'm off to take some more meds
I have no problem paying for services, with that said I better get what I paid for. Yes the powder coating was expensive but I'm very happy with the way it came out. But like the hub if I'm paying you for a service it better be performed correctly. I'll get more upset going out to McDonald's and spending $1.80 on fries just to get them and there cold but wouldn't have a problem going to a steak house and paying for a $35 steak and having it be perfect.
Hey quad, your experience has got me wanting to write up a new blog post on this very thing. Could I please have your permission to lift the pics you have posted? and maybe a few quotes from this thread?
here is my thread I am starting to request help w this.
Hey quad, your experience has got me wanting to write up a new blog post on this very thing. Could I please have your permission to lift the pics you have posted? and maybe a few quotes from this thread?
here is my thread I am starting to request help w this.
Yeah by all means go for it. I'm not only into letting people know about the bad shops out there but let's start getting the names of the better shops out there
...............what irks me is people who bad mouth the price of a quality coating job just because a rattle can inferior job is good enough for them. ....
That implies that all rattle can paint jobs are inferior and that all PC is better and the more you pay the better it is and that's not accurate. First up, there will always be a huge range in price and quality for what appear to be similar jobs but there's no point in paying more than you need to for an acceptable level of quality.
Next up, we have to ask if a $4000 paint job is appropriate for a Cb Honda twin that's worth maybe half of that. I have sprayed with a pro level gun and used rattle cans and have had several frames powdercoated and I always try to get the best possible finish for the least amount of money as fits the purpose.
I'll PC frames and swingarms for longevity as long as I'm paying 200-300 for it. On a race bike I need a super thin coat of paint that frame cracks will be seen easily. Race bikes are continuously evolving and they crack in use and PC is not appropriate in that case.
It all comes down to affordability and what is appropriate for a particular bike and budget.
So a bit more on topic. I got a call from the machine shop this morning. While the guy that's gong to weld it was looking it over he noticed a small crack on where the bearing would sit on top of. I'm a little annoyed that I didn't notice this, was probably to distracted by the damage to the threads. Now i really don't know what to do. If it's a tiny crack I don't think it would be unsafe to just weld up, or I should admit defeat with this one.
I get that but the problem is taking a drive to upstate New York to fight with the people that started this problem into buying me a new one and having them pay to powder the replacement. Meanwhile I have the hub at a shop that is willing to do this work for free.
Can you get a picture of the secondary 'crack'?
It could be a flaw from the casting die (very common)
Just have the threads welded up and re-machined, the hubs are way overbuilt so it won't be an issue.
It almost sounds like the machine shop likes doing something a bit 'off the wall' to break up routine ( I know I did when I worked as machinist, so did most of the people I worked with)
Can you get a picture of the secondary 'crack'?
It could be a flaw from the casting die (very common)
Just have the threads welded up and re-machined, the hubs are way overbuilt so it won't be an issue.
It almost sounds like the machine shop likes doing something a bit 'off the wall' to break up routine ( I know I did when I worked as machinist, so did most of the people I worked with)
I wish I could but I can't get to the shop till Tuesday. I just called and spoke to them, apparently it's two hairline cracks not where the bearing sits but it's on the outside of where the bearing retainer screws in which I'm not as worried about. I told him just to go for it. I have a set of 750A wheels sitting here at home that I was planning on keeping around as an extra set. But worse comes to worse I can use that hub.
That implies that all rattle can paint jobs are inferior and that all PC is better and the more you pay the better it is and that's not accurate. First up, there will always be a huge range in price and quality for what appear to be similar jobs but there's no point in paying more than you need to for an acceptable level of quality.
Next up, we have to ask if a $4000 paint job is appropriate for a Cb Honda twin that's worth maybe half of that. I have sprayed with a pro level gun and used rattle cans and have had several frames powdercoated and I always try to get the best possible finish for the least amount of money as fits the purpose.
I'll PC frames and swingarms for longevity as long as I'm paying 200-300 for it. On a race bike I need a super thin coat of paint that frame cracks will be seen easily. Race bikes are continuously evolving and they crack in use and PC is not appropriate in that case.
It all comes down to affordability and what is appropriate for a particular bike and budget.
A rattle can job is inferior to PC, not taking into account cost. My point was that I see too many people bad mouth PC when I know their biggest issue is they just can't afford it. You will always find exception to every situation. In many drag racing classes and sanctions PC'ing a frame is prohibited because when a frame develops a crack the PC won't crack and the frame crack remains hidden from inspection. If you don't take price into consideration PC is the most durable,solution, pro painting coming second and rattle canning last.
Quadracer, I would at this point have just replaced the hub, had it PCed and sent the shop that screwed it up the bill for the previous work reimbursement, replacement hub and coating and be done with it.
I get that but the problem is taking a drive to upstate New York to fight with the people that started this problem into buying me a new one and having them pay to powder the replacement. Meanwhile I have the hub at a shop that is willing to do this work for free.
Goddamn. You first say you will not go to the shop who fucked it up.
Then you say you've found a shop who can tig alu and make threads. To me, that sounds as good as it gets.
Then you say the welder over there spots a little itsy pitsy crack. SO? HE IS A FUCKING WELDER.
If you want your hub to be spotless and perfect, go back to 1973 and steal it out of the factory.
That implies that all rattle can paint jobs are inferior and that all PC is better and the more you pay the better it is and that's not accurate. First up, there will always be a huge range in price and quality for what appear to be similar jobs but there's no point in paying more than you need to for an acceptable level of quality.
Next up, we have to ask if a $4000 paint job is appropriate for a Cb Honda twin that's worth maybe half of that. I have sprayed with a pro level gun and used rattle cans and have had several frames powdercoated and I always try to get the best possible finish for the least amount of money as fits the purpose.
I'll PC frames and swingarms for longevity as long as I'm paying 200-300 for it. On a race bike I need a super thin coat of paint that frame cracks will be seen easily. Race bikes are continuously evolving and they crack in use and PC is not appropriate in that case.
It all comes down to affordability and what is appropriate for a particular bike and budget.
I wasn't complaining about the crack I just wanted to be sure it was going to be ok. Also I told them just to weld it up and I'll be picking it up on Tuesday.
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