My first bike '75 cb360

Very few of us race. My 360 is an around-the-town bike. Most are here just to shoot the shit. I, for one, am seldom very serious.
 
I do actual have a question regarding the seat pan. How have you all handled the up angle on the existing seat frame (flat seat won't work)? We have plans to make it from two pieces of plywood, miter for a tight fit and cover the top with sheet metal to make it more rigid and place to weld mounting screws. Curious if this is a method anyone has used, or recommends?

Purchasing die today for 1" tubing to add to existing frame for seat mount, with a little kick up in the back. Brat style seat.

Next steps... Make box to hold electrical and battery. Clean up the look.
 
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TonySeaB350 said:
How do you plan on lowering the bike?

My husband was one step ahead and did the already. Without me. To be honest I'm not sure exactly what he did. I'll have to ask.
 
stacygwiner1 said:
I honesty don't care ... I think this might be the wrong forum for me. More discouraging then anything.

I was waiting for this and why I was keeping my mouth shut... Let her build her little brat guys, if she wants your opinion she will give it too you, ideas and helpful hints are cool, but... i mean for Christ sake the girl has a hubby with a shop most of us dream about.

As for the seat pan Stacy, you may not need any wood at all... look around here, search seat pan and get some ideas, I just got a dimple die set for speed holes and strengthening up sheet metals you could beef the under chunk up and keep it light with that and make the removable pan from some aluminum sheet stock that hold shape. Lot of seat pan ideas... take more pics of the frame section with the extension added and put em up, then I can or "someone" can give you some insight.

Don't give up... just smack these guys when they get outa line!

RD :eek:
 
well flat,brat style seats very rarely work with normal suspension travel ,if you are as petite as you seem you are going to need some good quality shocks with light springs,then
before you build the seat you need to design it around the suspension ....or just do it wrong like 99% of the bratards ...your choice
 
stacygwiner1 said:
Thanks, I guess I can simply ignore the naysayers. But I'm wondering if it's the right place, I'm not planning on racing. I'm more into the building process and having a bike to ride around town.

That's fair.

I know a lot of places on the Internet can have a reputation for dick swinging and a bunch of folks trying to out-compete each other for who can be the biggest know-it-all, but this isn't one of those places.

There is a lot of knowledge to be had here, even if it is served up by a bunch of cantankerous old bastards.

Honestly, we're not providing opinions because we love the sounds of our own voices (Even though I do. I got a pretty darn good set of pipes, thank you very much). We're weighing in because we've been down this road before. We've made the same mistakes we're worried you may be heading toward.

Humans are unique in their ability to learn from each other. This is something we can take advantage of.

Remember, a bike needs to work first and look good second. There's nothing wrong with chasing a certain look in a build, but if you're sacrificing function to get there, you're going to hear about it. People aren't going to following along on your build without saying something.

That said, I don't know how much riding experience you have, but if you put any sort of decent lean angle onto those tires, you're probably going to regret it. Yes, they look cool and vintage. Unfortunately, they perform that way, too. Straight line cruising up and down the strip when it's warm and dry: sure. If it's wet and raining, leave the bike at home. Those tires are for show, not go. You're sacrificing a lot to make use of them.

Let me clarify, I'm not telling you what to do. I'm giving you information so that you can make an informed decision. The decision is still yours to make, but make it from a standpoint of knowledge and not from ignorance. We've had several riders use those tires and then swap them out later because they're like riding on jello.

Also, please do have a good think about suspension. You will bottom out the shocks sooner or later. Pull the springs from the shocks and let the bike sit on just the dampners. This will give you a really good idea of what you can expect when everything is moving. If the rear wheel is contacting the seat or frame, you'll want to work around it. This is a mistake I made with my own bike and it's a very frustrating thing to have to go back and correct later.
 
Tune-A-Fish said:
I was waiting for this and why I was keeping my mouth shut... Let her build her little brat guys, if she wants your opinion she will give it too you, ideas and helpful hints are cool, but... i mean for Christ sake the girl has a hubby with a shop most of us dream about.

As for the seat pan Stacy, you may not need any wood at all... look around here, search seat pan and get some ideas, I just got a dimple die set for speed holes and strengthening up sheet metals you could beef the under chunk up and keep it light with that and make the removable pan from some aluminum sheet stock that hold shape. Lot of seat pan ideas... take more pics of the frame section with the extension added and put em up, then I can or "someone" can give you some insight.

Don't give up... just smack these guys when they get outa line!

RD :eek:

Yeah, I was wondering if we needed to wood to make upholstering easy. When we finish the framing, hopefully this week. I'll post pics. Thanks.
 
xb33bsa said:
well flat,brat style seats very rarely work with normal suspension travel ,if you are as petite as you seem you are going to need some good quality shocks with light springs,then
before you build the seat you need to design it around the suspension ....or just do it wrong like 99% of the bratards ...your choice

I'll definitely look further into this and ask my husband. I know we still have the stock suspension on it. So may have to do something there. Thanks!
 
stacygwiner1 said:
I'll definitely look further into this and ask my husband. I know we still have the stock suspension on it. So may have to do something there. Thanks!

I fear I might have clearance issues as well. I have pics on my build thread so I won't clutter yours up with those but you can see on page 10 or so how tight the clearance is and I swept it up. I plan on 1" longer than stock shocks in hopes that this will clear me and I'll also be running a stock rear tire as well. I'm at a standstill until I can have time to work this one out.
 
Toyotacrawler said:
I fear I might have clearance issues as well. I have pics on my build thread so I won't clutter yours up with those but you can see on page 10 or so how tight the clearance is and I swept it up. I plan on 1" longer than stock shocks in hopes that this will clear me and I'll also be running a stock rear tire as well. I'm at a standstill until I can have time to work this one out.

I tried going 1" longer on mine, too. It killed the trail and made the bike feel really squirrelly in the corners.
 
Sonreir said:
I tried going 1" longer on mine, too. It killed the trail and made the bike feel really squirrelly in the corners.
+1. I didn't ride mine 50 miles before I went back to a shorter shock.
 
deviant said:
+1. I didn't ride mine 50 miles before I went back to a shorter shock.

You guys ride these things??

I don't know how an inch lower would hurt here guys, if you look at it like race sag, this gal probably wont settle the bike as deep as you would so the inch may just put her in the sweet spot, I would be more concerned as XB stated about spring size...
 
In my case, it wasn't just the 1" extra lift, it was the springs, too. I swapped out the stock shocks for a set from a CB650. No bueno.

I've got a set of Hagons, now.
 
Tune-A-Fish said:
You guys ride these things??

I don't know how an inch lower would hurt here guys, if you look at it like race sag, this gal probably wont settle the bike as deep as you would so the inch may just put her in the sweet spot, I would be more concerned as XB stated about spring size...
We're talking an inch higher, not an inch lower. I originally lowered the front end and raised the rear end, which unsettled the bike too much. I went back to stock height on the rear with well sprung Hagons and all is well.
 
deviant said:
We're talking an inch higher, not an inch lower. I originally lowered the front end and raised the rear end, which unsettled the bike too much. I went back to stock height on the rear with well sprung Hagons and all is well.

Oh... oops, she mentioned her hubby lowered it not bumped it up... never mind.
 
Tune-A-Fish said:
Oh... oops, she mentioned her hubby lowered it not bumped it up... never mind.
Lowered the front, but she was talking raising the rear to add clearance for the flat brat seat.
 
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