"Patina" The 1973 CB175 Cafe Racer

Why are purchases without a title ALWAYS frowned upon here when there are only a few states that may require one. Here in Ga. a title is not needed. Nothing more than a Bill of Sale is required to transfer ownership. If a vehicle is so many years old they won't issue a title because it is not needed. You can transfer a title if you have one. I would use not having a title as a positive negotiating tool if I was buying but not if I was selling. We are talking about vintage bikes over 25 years old.
Makes me want to travel to states that require them and buy up all the bikes without one and bring them down here.
 
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o1marc said:
Why are purchases without a title ALWAYS frowned upon here when there are only a few states that may require one. Here in Ga. a title is not needed. Nothing more than a Bill of Sale is required to transfer ownership. If a vehicle is so many years old they won't issue a title because it is not needed. You can transfer a title if you have one. I would use not having a title as a positive negotiating tool if I was buying but not if I was selling. We are talking about vintage bikes over 25 years old.
Makes me want to travel to states that require them and buy up all the bikes without one and bring them down here.
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You have it backwards.
There are few states where it's easy to get titles/titles are not required over 30 years.
The vast majority of states it is very difficult to get one legally unless you go through a state as mentioned above.
 
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SONIC. said:
You have it backwards.
There are few states where it's easy to get titles/titles are not required over 30 years.
The vast majority of states it is very difficult to get one legally unless you go through a state as mentioned above.
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I'm still missing something. The vast majority of states it is very difficult to get WHAT legally? The title or the bike?
 
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o1marc said:
I'm still missing something. The vast majority of states it is very difficult to get WHAT legally? The title or the bike?
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Title.
 
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o1marc said:
Who cares about the title if it's not needed for anything?
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Georgia is the only state I know of where a title is not needed for anything.
Every other state requires one to register the vehicle to get tags, so you can't ride a bike without a title.
 
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SONIC. said:
Georgia is the only state I know of where a title is not needed for anything.
Every other state requires one to register the vehicle to get tags, so you can't ride a bike without a title.
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I'll agree with you on what you know of, but you are mistaken. New Hampshire doesn't require a title on any vehicle over 15 years old. Ct. doesn't require a title on anything newer than a 1981. In Fla. For vehicles that have been registered in another state, you must also bring the original, out-of-state title. If the title is unavailable, bring the registration document, along with proof of sales tax payment. I'm sure there are others and I bet you might be surprised at how many.
There are , I'm sure states that require a title and it's not that hard to get one if it isn't available from the PO. My point is it may not always be wise to "walk away" from a sale just because there is no title.
 
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I know two things:

1) it's almost impossible to get a non titled bike registered and titled in NC.

2) it's ridiculously easy to do ^^ in GA.

It's possible to get it done but you have to essentially sell the bike to someone in an easy state, have them title it and then sell it back to you.
 
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I know two things:

1) it's almost impossible to get a non titled bike registered and titled in NC.

2) it's ridiculously easy to do ^^ in GA.

It's possible to get it done but you have to essentially sell the bike to someone in an easy state, have them title it and then sell it back to you.
 
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On another note, I'm getting ready to solve my left crankcase cover leaks with a fresh gasket . anyone use these?

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1sttimer said:
I know two things:

1) it's almost impossible to get a non titled bike registered and titled in NC.

2) it's ridiculously easy to do ^^ in GA.

It's possible to get it done but you have to essentially sell the bike to someone in an easy state, have them title it and then sell it back to you.
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Same with SC. We were always lucky to have family on both sides of the border. You've got me if you need help. Problem with Georgia now though, is the one time tax they installed. For an old bike it's not as much, but for some vehicles it can be over $400.
 
cafe mike said:
Always loop holes. Like if your buddy that owns a shop can say the customer failed to pay. He can take out a mechanics lean and obtain ppw.
I'm from New York. They used to steal a car, take everything off it. Label it and store it. They would put the carcass on the side of the road. And buy it back at auction with a salvage title. Sick right?
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That wouldn't work here in Ga. When assembling a salvage title vehicle you have to have a receipt for every part that goes back on it to show where the parts came from from you have the government office inspect it. I suspect it is to avoid just that situation.
 
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Then you need a buddy who can give you fake receipts. See .....loophole!
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They need to know the vin# of the vehicle the parts came off.
Only a licensed rebuilder may resurrect a salvage vehicle, so don't try to fix the car yourself. You must use a licensed rebuilder to be able to have the title's brand changed from "salvage" to "rebuilt." After that, you may again register and drive the vehicle.

Inspections
If you have restored or rebuilt a salvaged car in the state of Georgia, you must have it inspected at a state-approved salvage inspection station before you can title it. Inspections may be done at one of the approved locations or at your home or business. If you choose to have the inspection done at a station, you must tow the vehicle there―inspections will not be done on vehicles driven there.

Inspection stations set their own fees, so you will need to call in advance to determine the cost. In addition to these fees, when you take the inspection paperwork to your local tag office, you will also need to pay the state a $100 inspection fee and $18 title fee.
 
Inspection stations set their own fees, so you will need to call in advance to determine the cost. In addition to these fees, when you take the inspection paperwork to your local tag office, you will also need to pay the state a $100 inspection fee and $18 title fee.
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I'm glad I don't live in Georgia. I don't run that path anyways. I do the right thing legally
 
cafe mike said:
Inspection stations set their own fees, so you will need to call in advance to determine the cost. In addition to these fees, when you take the inspection paperwork to your local tag office, you will also need to pay the state a $100 inspection fee and $18 title fee.


I'm glad I don't live in Georgia. I don't run that path anyways. I do the right thing legally
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I'm glad I don't live in NY.
 
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o1marc said:
I'm glad I don't live in NY.
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I am too, but for many reasons :)

Also, if you just buy a bike with a title you don't have to have it inspected at all if it's older than 35 years in NC.
 
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1sttimer said:
I am too, but for many reasons :)

Also, if you just buy a bike with a title you don't have to have it inspected at all if it's older than 35 years in NC.
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In Dawson County where I live no vehicle gets inspected.
 
o1marc said:
... In addition to these fees, when you take the inspection paperwork to your local tag office, you will also need to pay the state a $100 inspection fee and $18 title fee.
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+ the new ad valorem title tax
 
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