"RATTLE CAN" BLING! ...everything is here!

Look at the up close photo? What do you think happened here?

I once painted a car with a a foam roller and it came out better than this.

It doesn't look like a reaction with the base coat. Looks like the nozzle got messed up, or pressure was low. They say warming the can in warm water before activating helps spray pattern. Also, I would never try using after about 8 hours past activating, although others have reported much longer times.
 
I used 3 cans of spraymax 2k that I did warm in hot water prior to using.

I applied the base coats, waited 40 minutes then I did 3 coats of clear waiting 10 minutes between each coats.

Looks like I am off to the store to buy 1500 s 2000 grit sand paper and some compound/polished
 
I used 3 cans of spraymax 2k that I did warm in hot water prior to using.

I applied the base coats, waited 40 minutes then I did 3 coats of clear waiting 10 minutes between each coats.

Looks like I am off to the store to buy 1500 s 2000 grit sand paper and some compound/polished
Did you do it before or after you pushed the button? 2k clear has a hardener that is activated and hardens, the speed of which is increased with heat. You shouldn't be heating it prior to spraying as you can activate the hardener, evaporate the solvents more quickly and cause the clear to gel up. This kills flow through your tip. You really want the can to be roughly at room temp when you activate the hardeners and the surface you're painting to be the same temp, which is about 65°F.
 
Did you do it before or after you pushed the button? 2k clear has a hardener that is activated and hardens, the speed of which is increased with heat. You shouldn't be heating it prior to spraying as you can activate the hardener, evaporate the solvents more quickly and cause the clear to gel up. This kills flow through your tip. You really want the can to be roughly at room temp when you activate the hardeners and the surface you're painting to be the same temp, which is about 65°F.

I heated the cans before punching the capsules.

Maybe that was a source of the problems. i had done this with regular paint many times without any problems and got good resluts.

I spent a good part of the day sanding with 1000 1500 and 2000.

I taped off the edges to make sure I dont break thru and focused on the bad areas.

The texture is now all gone. Horay! (Tired)

I then used Meguiars ultimate compound but could only rub it by hand to bring the shine back. It looks superb except the sanding marks I made are present when you look up close.

I need to borrow an electri compound buffer from a friend to get rid of them then I can forget about this nightmare.
 

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I heated the cans before punching the capsules.

Maybe that was a source of the problems. i had done this with regular paint many times without any problems and got good resluts.
Irk explained the difference. I heat regular enamels and lacquors in hot water if its cool when i need to paint but I never heat the 2k because of what Irk said. I am 100% confident it was your problem but good thing is it seemed to buff out for you fine. I may warm the surface of the parts a bit before applying the 2K but not too much either as it "Heats" itself chemically when it reacts from the mixing of the hardener and base.

It looks like it will be nice when final buff though so learn from this and next time you'll have even less work.

Cheers
 
used 3 cans of spraymax 2k that
Irk explained the difference. I heat regular enamels and lacquors in hot water if its cool when i need to paint but I never heat the 2k because of what Irk said. I am 100% confident it was your problem but good thing is it seemed to buff out for you fine. I may warm the surface of the parts a bit before applying the 2K but not too much either as it "Heats" itself chemically when it reacts from the mixing of the hardener and base.

It looks like it will be nice when final buff though so learn from this and next time you'll have even less work.

Cheers

Learning the HARD WAY.
 
I am no professional painter, however I am very experienced in using can spray paint for various purposes on a variety of surfaces. I have done everything from small bits and pieces to full mural art. I have painted cars, motorcycles, boats, and much more all using “rattle cans”. I decided to post this in order to help anyone who may not have experience using the “rattle can” method. I have seen various posts where someone gave some advice on painting, some using rattle can and some using professional equipment. I intend on covering every step in this thread. I hope anyone who has experience, will elaborate or criticize any of my method they see fit in order to prefect a collaborative method. The main reason I wanted to do this thread is I have seen where lesser experienced people have struggled with “rattle canning”. I hope they can use this as a reference.

Keys to a great rattle can job:
1. Start with good body work
2. Buy good quality brand paints
3. Learn to move in one direction with long even strokes
4. Create a make-shift paint booth(good lighting, sealed off from bugs/dusts/wind)
5. GOOD PAINT TAKES TIME!

Tools and supplies needed:
1. Dual action sander, preferably variable speed or at least a variable speed trigger
2. Sand paper for DA sander, 400 grit / 800grit / 1200grit / 2000grit
3. Denatured alcohol
4. Liquid soap
5. Lint free cloths (clean)!
6. Filler primer ( I like the gray rustoleum brand)
7. Body color paint
8. Clear enamel paint

Intro:
As stated in the keys above, the body work must be smooth and seamless, I cannot stress that enough! (Maybe someone who is handy with the body filler and finishing techniques will create that tread) I still like to prep the body work for paint by using the DA sander and the 400grit followed by the 800grit turning it on a high speed. If you are painting on fiberglass, be careful around edges not to cut in too deep. You are looking for a smooth surface with no noticeable transitions from filler to metal or resin. Never work in your paint booth unless painting body color or clear coat, even the primer will create a dust in your booth!

The following are prep methods that you will refer back to in many stages of the process, so from this point forward each method will be sited by its title.

“Wash Prep”:
Wash object with running water and soap. I like dish washing liquid. Make sure you use a rag. Rinse thoroughly with running water. Wipe dry with shamy or lint free cloth. Allow some time after to air dry.

“Tack prep”:
Move object to paint booth. Using a clean/dry lint free cloth, wipe down entire object with liberal amounts of denatured alcohol. Be sure you do not touch the object with anything (especially your fingers) after wiping down.

Prep:
When ready to begin painting you should start with a light coat to check your body work. This first coat will show you any imperfections before you waist too much time. Begin by “wash prepping” your object, then spray a light coat of the primer on the object. You should be holding the can 16 to 20 inches away from the object, waving it back and forth lightly while intermittently releasing and pressing the nozzle. You want to slowly cover the item with a light even coat, barley getting the object covered in color. Allow this coat to dry for 15-20 minutes. Visually inspect the object for imperfections in the bodywork. If you see definite lines where two layers meet or pitting, your body work is not done and you are not ready for paint. Once you are satisfied with you visual inspection coat move on to priming!

Priming:
Start by “dust coating”. This means hold the can about 20 inches from object and rapidly depress and release the nozzle until you have covered the entire object in a dusty looking coat. This coat should have a texture to it, which is what allows you to build a heavy coat without getting running or sheeting. Never let this “dust coat” look wet; you are laying it to heavy if it appears wet. Allow the “dust coat” 5 minutes to set then begin “covering”. “Covering” means to lay fairly heavy coats of paint using the longest stroke possible. (EXAMPLE: if you were painting a flat square you would start across the bottom and work to the top by moving in horizontal strokes. Aim the nozzle more toward the unpainted surface and away from the freshly painted surface. Depressing the nozzle before your come over the edge and releasing after passing over the opposite edge, painting in both directions.) You should hold the can 12 to 14inches from object and overlap each previous pass by about 2 inches. Don’t try to get it to cover everything, just move at one constant speed and keep it all even, you will be making many passes over the object so it will get covered. After you first “covering coat” you can start over with another “covering coat”. That should be done about for times before pausing. After the forth coat, stop and allow a 15 minute tack time. After the time has passed you can lay on another four coats of “covering”, wait 15 more minutes then repeat covering again! At this point you have 12 coats on your object, it needs to cure, primer dries fast but when you lay it heavy it will take a while for it to cure. Place the object in your booth or other safe place and allow it to cure for at least 48 hours. After curing you may find that your primer has a gritty texture or even some egg shell or orange peel finish, this is ok. In fact if you did it all right, it should! Time to do some sanding! With your DA sander on a low speed, wet sand the surface using 1200grit. DO NOT sand corners with sander, save them and do them by hand very lightly. (TIP: mix up some wet sanding solution by using one tea spoon of baby shampoo in a gallon of water) Once the primer coat is all smooth, time to lay some color! If you sanded through your primer coat, :-[ do it all again, and sand lighter!

Color painting:
It is crucial that you have a good grasp of the “covering” technique for laying color. Begin by doing the “wash prep” followed by the ”tack prep”. Once you are ready and feeling confident with your “covering” technique, begin your “dust coat” of the color. Allow that 10 minutes to tack then go with the “covering” method. Just as above do the “covering” method by doing four full passes, wait 15 minutes, repeat, and repeat again. This again should be twelve coats, give this 24 hours in the booth. After the set time, go straight into another “dust” coat followed by the same 12 coat “covering” process. Curing time, allow the object at least 48 hours to cure before continuing. After curing, DA wet sand the object lightly with the 1200 grit paper, again stay away from edges, they will have to be done by hand. Make sure you start with clean paper. Sand until orange peel finish is removed all the way down to smooth color, but not through to primer! Once sanded, complete a “wash prep” followed by“tack prep”. DO NOT “dust coat” this time, just lay two passes of “covering” coats and wait 15 minutes then lay two “covering” coats of clear paint. Allow this to cure for 48 hours. Now you’re ready to clear.

Clear Coating:
Start by “tack prepping”. After you have prepped, lay four passes of “covering” coats with the clear, wait 15 minutes, repeat, then repeat again. After that you must cure for 48 hours. Wet sand using clean 1200 grit at low speed, “wash prep”, “tack prep”, repeat the entire “covering” coat steps again. Cure for 48 hours and repeat wet sanding, after wet sanding with 1200 grit move to 2000grit and smooth out more. You are almost there! “Wash prep” again then begin buffing.

Buffing:
Using a high speed buffer and a fine buffing compound, buff clear coat on high speed applying light pressure over entire object. “Wash prep” and wax using a quality wax and hand applicator. Apply and remove wax by hand, two or three coats really gets a nice bling.

I hope you find this helpful, the above is for gloss paints only, see page two for the flat method.

Cheers! And happy “rattle canning”!
 
So, what is the consensus on using 2k clear then with the process on page 1, which states you do soem sort of dusting then come back and continue .... by the time you come back and continue the 2k clear would have hardened and been useless. no?

Is it ok to just do it in 1 session with proper breaks in between coats?
 
With 2k I just do it all in one session. First coat a light mist with the other ones heavier.

That's what i thought. Thanks!

What do you use for clear? Is there a good alternative to spraymax 2k? It seems quite hard to find here in Canada, west coast. None of the stores around me carry it.

Any experience with
Dupli-Color Perfect Match

clear coats? They sell at canadian tire as a "premium automotive" paint :/
 
Go with 2K if you can. It has a hardener in it which makes it way stronger than 1K clear, also gas resistant. Your local napa will carry it, and if they don't you can order it through them.
 
It costs a little more than regular clear but well worth it. Just make sure you wear a proper respirator mask and don't have any skin exposed (goggles too) - this stuff is proper toxic.
 
Amazon doesn't carry it in Canada?

The problem with Amazon in Canada is not everything is available from Amazon. Lots of stuff is available but from 3rd party sellers using Amazon as a store. So you really have to be careful because prices can vary wildly as a result.

I see Spraymax 2k for $39.99. That seems a bit pricey, but i can't find anywhere else locally to compare. Napa online (out of stock) lists it at $32 .... so $8 difference right there between just these two.
 
If you're looking to save money, don't get 2K. If you're looking for the best clear you can get in a can, do.
 
If you're looking to save money, don't get 2K. If you're looking for the best clear you can get in a can, do.

yyeea ..... now that i price this out, it's getting dangerously close to just paying a painter $100 to throw it in the booth when he's already spraying a car, since i'm flexible on color lol

i'm derailing the thread. my apologies. ignore :)
 
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The problem with Amazon in Canada is not everything is available from Amazon. Lots of stuff is available but from 3rd party sellers using Amazon as a store. So you really have to be careful because prices can vary wildly as a result.

I see Spraymax 2k for $39.99. That seems a bit pricey, but i can't find anywhere else locally to compare. Napa online (out of stock) lists it at $32 .... so $8 difference right there between just these two.
My Napa charges 25.99 CAD? Call the local to you store.
 
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