The Tortoise: cb350 -Now with metal flake
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rjz5400
grummble grumble
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 04/17/10 DONE!
while we are making suggestions,
first off love the fork swap and the sweet meat it put between the forks.
but in the back that rubber is tired looking, i just recently tried my hand at mounting tires and have found it pretty simple once i read the tips and watched a video floating around.
anyway gotta get some up to date rubber out back and this tortoise will be smokin.......
Motorcycle superstore has some great tires i just ordered some for my cb125 and they were the cheapest place in town. Michelin gazelles for like 20 a piece free shipping,
check it.
also i like the yellow or blue color maybe even a more burnt orange with lighter stripes and words like poppy or sunflower trim and letters on a darker orange eggshell metallic not super glossy, i think this will be racetastic.
while we are making suggestions,
first off love the fork swap and the sweet meat it put between the forks.
but in the back that rubber is tired looking, i just recently tried my hand at mounting tires and have found it pretty simple once i read the tips and watched a video floating around.
anyway gotta get some up to date rubber out back and this tortoise will be smokin.......
Motorcycle superstore has some great tires i just ordered some for my cb125 and they were the cheapest place in town. Michelin gazelles for like 20 a piece free shipping,
check it.
also i like the yellow or blue color maybe even a more burnt orange with lighter stripes and words like poppy or sunflower trim and letters on a darker orange eggshell metallic not super glossy, i think this will be racetastic.
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 04/17/10 DONE!
The rear rubber is a brand new duro. Yeah I know it's small and looks funky, i've got a plan for maching wheels, most the parts as well. Just no time. I'll be going the same route as Squirly's 550 with the wheels.
BCB, thanks for your effort. I'm not sold on anything yet, I like the creame(it really is creame, i know it looks white) the bike is now alot, it just needs a re-paint because i've beaten the crap out of it from putting it on and taking it off. I dunno keep them comming maybe something will catch my eye. Try the factory green.
Chris/Mysta your comments are always appreciated. The wife likes it white as well, so in the end it'll probably get resprayed a similar colour.
Thanks again everyone
rjz5400 said:
The rear rubber is a brand new duro. Yeah I know it's small and looks funky, i've got a plan for maching wheels, most the parts as well. Just no time. I'll be going the same route as Squirly's 550 with the wheels.
BCB, thanks for your effort. I'm not sold on anything yet, I like the creame(it really is creame, i know it looks white) the bike is now alot, it just needs a re-paint because i've beaten the crap out of it from putting it on and taking it off. I dunno keep them comming maybe something will catch my eye. Try the factory green.
Chris/Mysta your comments are always appreciated. The wife likes it white as well, so in the end it'll probably get resprayed a similar colour.
Thanks again everyone
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Update 05/02/10
I had an issue with the old headlight clamps hitting the tank just before the stops did. The rear mounting flange kept hitting and eventually cracked one clamp and broke the other. RP was really never meant for this. So I did a few revisions in pro-e and sent them off to the 3d printer again.
I think they turned out great. They feel much more solid and give me tons of clearance. You can't see it in the pics, but the inside of the clamps are hollow and webbed. It keeps material costs down. Rp'ing costs about $20/in^3 including supporting material. So a bunch of FEA and compromise ended up with about 4in^3 each...not that I actually pay for it. If these work out, they'll be redone 7% larger and casted out of aluminum, then machined to final dimensions.
old ones:
In other news, I put 300km on the bike and developed a whole bunch of electrical problems. I attribute this to all the crimp connections i used. Since the wiring annoyed me to begin with, I went down to the local electronics shop and bought 5m of every wire they had from 14ga to 24ga and rewired accordingly.
Everything is solders solid, no more lose connections and electrical gremlins. I lost a week of riding because of it, but i won't have to touch the electrical ever again.
I should note that I did totally ruin the clearcoat on the gastank when I tried to remove it this last time. So everyone will be happy that yes i'll be re-painting it in the next few weeks. So keep the photoshops rolling in.
I had an issue with the old headlight clamps hitting the tank just before the stops did. The rear mounting flange kept hitting and eventually cracked one clamp and broke the other. RP was really never meant for this. So I did a few revisions in pro-e and sent them off to the 3d printer again.
I think they turned out great. They feel much more solid and give me tons of clearance. You can't see it in the pics, but the inside of the clamps are hollow and webbed. It keeps material costs down. Rp'ing costs about $20/in^3 including supporting material. So a bunch of FEA and compromise ended up with about 4in^3 each...not that I actually pay for it. If these work out, they'll be redone 7% larger and casted out of aluminum, then machined to final dimensions.
old ones:
In other news, I put 300km on the bike and developed a whole bunch of electrical problems. I attribute this to all the crimp connections i used. Since the wiring annoyed me to begin with, I went down to the local electronics shop and bought 5m of every wire they had from 14ga to 24ga and rewired accordingly.
Everything is solders solid, no more lose connections and electrical gremlins. I lost a week of riding because of it, but i won't have to touch the electrical ever again.
I should note that I did totally ruin the clearcoat on the gastank when I tried to remove it this last time. So everyone will be happy that yes i'll be re-painting it in the next few weeks. So keep the photoshops rolling in.
boomshakalaka
Over 1,000 Posts
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 04/17/10 DONE!
I agree with bcb. At first glance I alwyas think your tank is just gelcoated. If you must stay with the off-white, I say give it a bit more color and maybe break it up with some graffics/striping.
I agree with bcb. At first glance I alwyas think your tank is just gelcoated. If you must stay with the off-white, I say give it a bit more color and maybe break it up with some graffics/striping.
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Intake Boots!
Took the bike out for a ride just now, it's been giving me difficulties since I rewired it. Didn't like to stay at idle, hard to start. On my way around town the revs started to stick when I clutched in or downshifted. I limped it home and found out the intake boot is ripped, it's torn right next to the flange.
So what do I do? Are they fixable or does anybody know of a place that sells new ones?
Thanks
Took the bike out for a ride just now, it's been giving me difficulties since I rewired it. Didn't like to stay at idle, hard to start. On my way around town the revs started to stick when I clutched in or downshifted. I limped it home and found out the intake boot is ripped, it's torn right next to the flange.
So what do I do? Are they fixable or does anybody know of a place that sells new ones?
Thanks
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - Intake Boots!
just the one, mr blurry cam and all. It's the dark spot where the flange meets the "tube"
I found the honda OEM number and I see a few places online show stock, going to call the local dealership and see about price/availability tomorrow.
Big R said:
just the one, mr blurry cam and all. It's the dark spot where the flange meets the "tube"
I found the honda OEM number and I see a few places online show stock, going to call the local dealership and see about price/availability tomorrow.
HerrDeacon
Over 1,000 Posts
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - Intake Boots!
If its ripped like that I wouldn't use it, not worth the risk of running lean and the headaches it would bring. Wouldn't want it to become the Achilles heel of this awesome build.
If its ripped like that I wouldn't use it, not worth the risk of running lean and the headaches it would bring. Wouldn't want it to become the Achilles heel of this awesome build.
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - Intake Boots!
Curbcast: Sorry I have nothing left from the original bike, some local bought it all.
A small update, new headlight clamps are on, and the bike is running good again. The slides got super dirty and started to stick and some crudd made it's way through the inline fuel filters and plugged the slow jets.
If it's possible I think the exhaust became louder, I think it'll need a redesign to the baffle, although it's funny the see people looking for the source of the noise and then do a double take when they see me on this little thing.
Aside from repainting the tank and fenders, solving the exhaust noise, and some more fine tuning of the carbs, I think the bike is more or less done.
One last thought, What are opinions on a full vintage fairing? I love the look of them but lost the battle for one on the 500, so I'm considering one for the 350. Am I crazy?
Curbcast: Sorry I have nothing left from the original bike, some local bought it all.
A small update, new headlight clamps are on, and the bike is running good again. The slides got super dirty and started to stick and some crudd made it's way through the inline fuel filters and plugged the slow jets.
If it's possible I think the exhaust became louder, I think it'll need a redesign to the baffle, although it's funny the see people looking for the source of the noise and then do a double take when they see me on this little thing.
Aside from repainting the tank and fenders, solving the exhaust noise, and some more fine tuning of the carbs, I think the bike is more or less done.
One last thought, What are opinions on a full vintage fairing? I love the look of them but lost the battle for one on the 500, so I'm considering one for the 350. Am I crazy?
Jfishsolevibe
Coast to Coast
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - Intake Boots!
How on earth have I missed this build?
This bike is perfect in my eyes. Love the lines, love how well the tank fits - and the seat is perfecto!
Cant wait to see it done.
How on earth have I missed this build?
This bike is perfect in my eyes. Love the lines, love how well the tank fits - and the seat is perfecto!
Cant wait to see it done.
bikeboy
Over 1,000 Posts
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - Intake Boots!
+1. I'm still trying to catch up on all the cool bikes here, but every now and then a real gem pops up to the top of the list because someone has updated their build.
This bike is awesome, and another to add to my list of slick front-end mods.
well done fella, I'm watching you now
ian
Jfishsolevibe said:
+1. I'm still trying to catch up on all the cool bikes here, but every now and then a real gem pops up to the top of the list because someone has updated their build.
This bike is awesome, and another to add to my list of slick front-end mods.
well done fella, I'm watching you now
ian
Garage_guy_chris
Been Around the Block
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - Intake Boots!
For intake boots i would try two places
http://www.siriusconinc.com/ they are good guys located out in cambridge, if they dont have em they might know who does..
http://www.z1enterprises.com/
For intake boots i would try two places
http://www.siriusconinc.com/ they are good guys located out in cambridge, if they dont have em they might know who does..
http://www.z1enterprises.com/
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - oops I did it again.
I have a bad habit of updating these things.
I sorted out the carb issue, turns out it was a torn boot and the velocity stacks had sucked in some wet dust(riding through road construction in the rain), that caused the slides to stick, so I cleaned the carbs out, bought a whole bunch of jets and got it running perfectly...well "perfectly". It would run great until about 120km/hr and then start to buck and sputter. did a few plug chops, it was fine as far as i could figure, perhaps a bit rich. Never had a chance to sort it out, the ride back from the Paris swap meet killed the charging system and the motor...sounds like a damn diesel now. I was thinking it was probably an airflow issue because the surgeing only happens above 110kmh, I can rev the piss out of it below that and am fine...perhaps it's time to ditch the v-stacks, or RP up and airbox?
Enter today, after finishing off the 500 motor and getting it back in the frame, I pulled the mill from the 350, started tearing into it, I found a bunch of bolts that look like some drunken lout had been at with a chisel, .25 over pistons, loose cam gear bolts and the usual worn tensioner, not horrible, but needs to be replaced.
Still can't figure out what the clatter was coming from, nothing i took apart looks the culprit perhaps it's in the bottom end?
The plan for now is rip it completely apart, clean and inspect everything and toss it back togeather so it runs nicely for the rest of the season. Bunch of parts from boretech are on the way, as soon as the shipment gets here it'll be off tot he machine shop.
On a different note, has anybody had any experience with microsquirt ecm? I've been toying with some idea's for some fun to have over the winter, but have only ever romtuned existing ecm's, never started from scratch.
Cheers,
Matt
I have a bad habit of updating these things.
I sorted out the carb issue, turns out it was a torn boot and the velocity stacks had sucked in some wet dust(riding through road construction in the rain), that caused the slides to stick, so I cleaned the carbs out, bought a whole bunch of jets and got it running perfectly...well "perfectly". It would run great until about 120km/hr and then start to buck and sputter. did a few plug chops, it was fine as far as i could figure, perhaps a bit rich. Never had a chance to sort it out, the ride back from the Paris swap meet killed the charging system and the motor...sounds like a damn diesel now. I was thinking it was probably an airflow issue because the surgeing only happens above 110kmh, I can rev the piss out of it below that and am fine...perhaps it's time to ditch the v-stacks, or RP up and airbox?
Enter today, after finishing off the 500 motor and getting it back in the frame, I pulled the mill from the 350, started tearing into it, I found a bunch of bolts that look like some drunken lout had been at with a chisel, .25 over pistons, loose cam gear bolts and the usual worn tensioner, not horrible, but needs to be replaced.
Still can't figure out what the clatter was coming from, nothing i took apart looks the culprit perhaps it's in the bottom end?
The plan for now is rip it completely apart, clean and inspect everything and toss it back togeather so it runs nicely for the rest of the season. Bunch of parts from boretech are on the way, as soon as the shipment gets here it'll be off tot he machine shop.
On a different note, has anybody had any experience with microsquirt ecm? I've been toying with some idea's for some fun to have over the winter, but have only ever romtuned existing ecm's, never started from scratch.
Cheers,
Matt
Uniac
Been Around the Block
Re: The Tortoise: cb350 - oh noes I brokes it.
So I found the source of the "rattle," the kickstarter stop had snapped off and the kickstarter spring was cracked in half, I took everything down to my brothers shop used his fantastic parts washer (huge thing for cleaning glands on hydraulic cylinders) and welded the piece back in place and ordered a new spring online. While I was at the shop I turned some Delrin for tensioner wheels (picture later), I think they turned out alright, though I may still order the Boretech slipper tensioner.
Some of the various parts (350/500)ordered came in this week, still waiting on a few more before I throw the motor back together.
In the meantime I stripped the tank of the cream colour, wet sanded and primed. Finally decided to go with the blue I had originally picked out for the bike, and if the weather holds out hopefully i'll get that sprayed tomorrow.
The only real thing left to do is prep the headlight bucket for the same paint. I'll get to that after dinner.
Hopefully if all goes well I'll be back up and riding by weeks-end.
So I found the source of the "rattle," the kickstarter stop had snapped off and the kickstarter spring was cracked in half, I took everything down to my brothers shop used his fantastic parts washer (huge thing for cleaning glands on hydraulic cylinders) and welded the piece back in place and ordered a new spring online. While I was at the shop I turned some Delrin for tensioner wheels (picture later), I think they turned out alright, though I may still order the Boretech slipper tensioner.
Some of the various parts (350/500)ordered came in this week, still waiting on a few more before I throw the motor back together.
In the meantime I stripped the tank of the cream colour, wet sanded and primed. Finally decided to go with the blue I had originally picked out for the bike, and if the weather holds out hopefully i'll get that sprayed tomorrow.
The only real thing left to do is prep the headlight bucket for the same paint. I'll get to that after dinner.
Hopefully if all goes well I'll be back up and riding by weeks-end.
