Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175

While zeke is doing the exhaust I have been told that I am spending too much time on the battery mount and head light.
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Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175

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aircraft flush mount rivets to mount the battery box to the head light mount. Next up is Dzus style fasteners to mount the head light to the plate. Zeke says I am too slow and need to finish the mounting. As you can see 1 rivet is not recessed correctly.


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Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175

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The key is getting the cone tapped the the v block and the jack then wedging the jack to be at the correct elevation. We also pulled out a foot stool to climb to the correct elevation to get the perspective as if the bike was on the ground.

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Magnets, tape, foam, wedges. Hobbsracecraft is known for his header work.
 
I'd be careful with that battery. It looks like LI-ION cells just shrink-wrapped together. Failure is very common with these types of batteries as they don't usually include any managing electronics and a very prone to vibration damage. Fires are not unheard of.
 
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I'd be careful with that battery. It looks like LI-ION cells just shrink-wrapped together. Failure is very common with these types of batteries as they don't usually include any managing electronics and a very prone to vibration damage. Fires are not unheard of.
what if we use rubber to help with the vibration?https://vimeo.com/198864052


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Those types of battery usually have zero protection for under or over charging. Think of it sort of like a Dell laptop battery mixed in with a Galaxy 7 Note.

What will get you is called "Thermal Runaway". LI-ION technology is a bit different than other battery types. With many types of electronics, there is a temperature increase associated with using them. This increase in temperature generally results in a slightly higher resistance, which causes less power to flow through the device. The process will eventually reach an equilibrium in which the amount of increased resistance causes an associated decrease in power and a balance is reached. With LI-ION, that does not occur. An increase in temperature in the device can change internal conditions such that more power is available (LI-ION don't like the cold, but they love the heat. They even have special start-up procedures when the temps get into the freezing range). If there's a short circuit inside the battery and no battery management system is available, the battery will explode and usually start a fire.

I would never use one of these types of LI-ION batteries on a motorcycle for any reason.
 
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Sonreir said:
Those types of battery usually have zero protection for under or over charging. Think of it sort of like a Dell laptop battery mixed in with a Galaxy 7 Note.

What will get you is called "Thermal Runaway". LI-ION technology is a bit different than other battery types. With many types of electronics, there is a temperature increase associated with using them. This increase in temperature generally results in a slightly higher resistance, which causes less power to flow through the device. The process will eventually reach an equilibrium in which the amount of increased resistance causes an associated decrease in power and a balance is reached. With LI-ION, that does not occur. An increase in temperature in the device can change internal conditions such that more power is available (LI-ION don't like the cold, but they love the heat. They even have special start-up procedures when the temps get into the freezing range). If there's a short circuit inside the battery and no battery management system is available, the battery will explode and usually start a fire.

I would never use one of these types of LI-ION batteries on a motorcycle for any reason.
That is good to know. Fuller gave us the battery to use. http://speedcell.com/

Don't know that much about them. I have been using it in one of our bikes. It quick charges in 20 minutes with a regular charger. Let me know what you think.


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Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175

Was also thinking about mounting the regulator/rectified to the outside of trapezoid
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I looked over their product details and it was as I suspected. They're just using some cheap A123 cells and soldering them together. No mention of electronic battery management systems or other electronic protections. Their FAQ section even mentions that a standard battery charger will not work on their products.
 
We pulled another all weekender.
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Zeke designed and started tacking the exhaust.
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Zoöid Third Times a Charm CB175

Warning the following video contains riveting action and gratuitous dramatic grinding for millennial viewing. https://youtu.be/2Vt3_nAzCKs


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1fasgsxr said:
Is that long thing a Busa? Details please !!
yes that is a busa. That is 500 ponies getting titanium exhaust and cost more than my house.


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I looked over their product details and it was as I suspected. They're just using some cheap A123 cells and soldering them together. No mention of electronic battery management systems or other electronic protections. Their FAQ section even mentions that a standard battery charger will not work on their products.
They were the ones that told me I could use a lead charge for no longer than 20 minutes. UMM!!!


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