1st time builder brat / bobber budget build

Timmy110185

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Hi,
This is my first post on this project, and this is in fact my first project. Had bikes since I was a young lad but only ever done the basics. The majority of bikes being trials bikes and very simplistic, I thought I'd go for something as similar as possible. Here she is, what a beauty she was!
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The guy I had bought it off wanted to replicate a SP400, but I wanted a very different bike indeed.

After agreeing with the wife that I could have a low power cheap commuter even though I sold my R6 when my son was born 3 years ago and had said I was going to go without bikes till he was older. I parted with a few quid and was over the moon, she was a bit lumpy running but a good starter. I dialled in the carbs a little and then pondered my next move.

One Saturday morning after just nipping into the garage for an hour or so too tinker, the project took off without much warning to me or the bike as I got carried away.
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Next I decided to tidy the rear end up with a frame loop, my welding ability is limited with a small hobby mig, but I'm patient with a grinder so the finished job was not too bad. I removed all tabs that were without use, added some brackets for mounting the seat and a battery box.
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For the frame I went for rattle cans of hammered black hammerite, it's plenty hard wearing and coats over rust. The finish has a nice metalic look and the hammered finish covers any of my inevitable imperfections!
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Next I turned my attention to tidying up the engine, I got too it with degreaser, toothbrushes, wire brushes and just about anything that would fit into the nooks an crannys. I went for a gloss black engine enamel with highlighted alloy fins and badges.
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Please bear with me as this is three months of tinkering condensed into a shortish post!

As I was keeping the original wheels I thought I'd try to clean up the chrome, I've never been a big fan of chrome, but as I was trying to get the whole thing done for less than £1000 including the purchase of the bike I had make some compromises. The front cleaned up real nice, mainly because of leaky fork seals meant that had a coating of oil constantly, but the back was too pitted to rescues so I dulled the chrome and went for a black wheel on the rear. Hopefully it will look good, I'm hoping the black wheel on the rear should make it appear smaller in turn making the front look bigger ie I want a 21" front wheel but the damn budget doesn't allow!!
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So here comes my battery box. I was going to fabricate or buy a fake oil tank as I love the look, I then came across a biscuit barrel at a superstore in the sale. Perfect size and shape and at £4 I had to have it. So here's a little picture to give the gist of it mounted, it will look better when final fitted but this was a rough mock up!
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I then lost a little mojo with it and after a couple if weeks of standstill I wanted a pick me up. I thought I'd treat myself to painting the tank. Out came the sandpaper and filler. The previous owner had rattle canned it satin black, I stripped it back to bare metal and filled all the lows, including all the badge recesses. Four coat of primer filler and it then got a re-sanded and filled. More primer and a mist coat of black. I'm rambling on, you all know how it goes. After the black base coat then the silver I went over with six coats of blood red candy dye and a good few coats of lacquer. I roughed up the lacquer to pug some black metalic panels in each side as a bit of detail and then clear coated again. After a buff and polish it came out ok for a rattle can job.
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While the tank was being worked on I was also sorting out the forks, I stripped them down and internally lowered them. When they were apart I shaved off all the un wanted tabs, as I'm not going to run a front mud guard. I then got out the sand paper and wire brush and gave them a satin polish finish. New seals and they were ready to go, I gave the yokes a coat of black and put them together.

That's where I'm up to for now, I mocked it up just to have a look at what I had for now and this is it.
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Next thing is seat pan and engine in. It's just as and when I'm able to sneak some playing out time in the garage.

Thanks for reading so far, sorry if it's a bit long winded! Any comments, advice or opinions are welcome but please be gentle I'm only learning!
 
Welcome Tim ! To bad you can't get the power to weight ratio like a trials ! I ran a Bata for awhile and man I wish I never sold it !

Bike is looking good and bikes are bikes just diff sizes LOL I'm sure you'll do a bang up job !
 
Hi Timmy it's Ian the guy you bought the bike off. I LOVE what you're doing to the old GN. Timmy clearly has more skill than I have, especially with the rattle cans. It's lovely to see what is happening to the old girl so keep going. Who knows when it's complete I might get a ride on it (hint hint)!
 
Dreadrock - I agree bikes are bikes and that was my thought when I sort of dived in. I had a beta amongst many things and it rode really nice, smooth in comparison too some I've had!!

Smithy - I'm pleased you approve and as for a test ride, most definitely! It would be rude not too, she was your hack before mine!
 
Can't wait Timmy, I will trade you a ride on the GN for a ride on my SR400 so we can make a comparison.
 
So I managed to get a little more tinker time today, the mrs took the boy out and I coaxed my dad into giving a hand with lifting the engine in.

So the engine went in and we decided it would be good to get it rolling to see how it sat.
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I'm pretty happy with it. It will have to have the wheels back off again obviously but curiously and childish impatience got the better of me!
 
I'm with plagrone on this one at the minute, the chrome on the front was too good not to save (older than my good self) plus as I mentioned I'm hoping it will hopefully give the visual effect of a smaller back wheel.
I'll stick with it for now but I could always change it up in the future!
 
I appreciate all opinions and comments, if nothing else they are thought provoking!

Next up will be the great tyre debate, I really like the look of the knobbly's on it, I know from years of riding trials bikes on the road it can be sketchy. I don't want to be caught out with form over function!

Any thoughts anyone??
 
I would think being trials tires there REALLY soft so the road over a shorter time will eat them up ?
 
Sorry perhaps I wasn't very clear, trials tyres got eaten up quickly with road miles between off road playing, I was thinking more dual sport. Something along these lines.......
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Timmy110185 said:
I appreciate all opinions and comments, if nothing else they are thought provoking!

Next up will be the great tyre debate, I really like the look of the knobbly's on it, I know from years of riding trials bikes on the road it can be sketchy. I don't want to be caught out with form over function!

Any thoughts anyone??

I have exactly the same deliberations with myself over tyre choice for my KZ750T Tracker.

In reality I only ride on sunny days [ ergo - not much in the UK ] AND when they are all eventully finished I will have 3 maybe 4 bikes to play with. So - tyre life is not an issue.

Neither do I ride in the rain - unless caught out, so ultimate roadholding also not an issue - oh yes, plus the fact I no longer ride like my life didn't depend on it [ ie - becoming a whimp ].

Be good to see what you eventually choose.
 
Neither do I ride in the rain - unless caught out, so ultimate roadholding also not an issue - oh yes, plus the fact I no longer ride like my life didn't depend on it [ ie - becoming a whimp ].


I hear you on that BC LOL funny how that happens the older we get :)
 
I don't think age is a deciding factor!!

I have never liked riding in the rain even as a kid, that's because I've always been a wimp I suppose. I was the only lad with a clean trials bike
 
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