82 Virago 750 Cafe Racer (Done!)

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Got my rims back today. Tank is going to be a little longer...I am really happy with the rims. They were in bad shape, especially the front.

New exhaust came in. I have been working on sand blasting my parts for powder. Just wish the weather would get better.

 
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Virago1113 said:
Got my rims back today. Tank is going to be a little longer...I am really happy with the rims. They were in bad shape, especially the front.

New exhaust came in. I have been working on sand blasting my parts for powder. Just wish the weather would get better.

That sure makes those ugly things look good! Did you order the Mac 2-1?
 
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cole.pinnow said:
That sure makes those ugly things look good! Did you order the Mac 2-1?

Yeah I got the Mac 2-1. I got the black pipes and chrome muffler.
 
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Here is the .7z (zipped) sketchup file for the subframe I made. Only thing I am missing in the drawing is the inserts I welded in to bolt it into the side of the frame.

Click to download then change the extension to .7z then extract it.

Even though it is a zipped file, the forum doesn't like it...
 

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Re: 82 Virago 750 Project Cafe

Virago1113 said:
Yeah I got the Mac 2-1. I got the black pipes and chrome muffler.

I ordered that as well, but went with the chrome pipes and stainless 12" muffler. It just fits so well with the Virago lines.
 
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Made an engine stand. I started soda blasting and cleaning the engine. Also made a "pregnant" powder coat oven so I can fit my frame and swingarm in my oven. Tested it out @ 400 for 20 minutes and nothing caught on fire...



 
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Virago1113 said:
Made an engine stand. I started soda blasting and cleaning the engine. Also made a "pregnant" powder coat oven so I can fit my frame and swingarm in my oven. Tested it out @ 400 for 20 minutes and nothing caught on fire...




Through adversity comes........another way to powdercoat larger parts. :)
 
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Painted the engine today. I haven't decided on the side covers if I want them black or polished. I have to remove the left side anyways as the shift lever seal is leaking oil.



 
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After weeks of cleaning and blasting (or maybe it just felt that long) I spent the better part of 8 hours today out powder coating some parts. I got a good chunk of the parts done today. I just now have a lot of miscellaneous little parts that will need to be done.



I'm happy with the outcome. There is one part I may redo.

Frame and swingarm are out getting blasted at a shop as they were just too big for me to do.

Enjoy...
 
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Took the leap and powdered my frame tonight...




Mounted it back on the engine. Started cleaning parts as I put them back on.

Hoping to have the swingarm powdered by the end of the weekend. It's all blasted, just have to clean up a few things and a little prep work before I bake it.

Doesn't look like I will make my May 1st deadline...but I am way closer than I thought I would be.

Cheers
 
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More baking today...I feel like Betty Crocker. I think I am almost done. I had to redo one piece as I wasn't happy with the original results.

 
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I've never powder coated anything...so I have a (few) question(s). I know you have to have a clean surface, bare metal, etc., then hook up to the current for the gun and dust the powder on and bake. But when you put it in the oven, are there marks in the powder coat since you have to rest it on the grates? Like doesn't the powder liquefy and stick/create an odd pattern from what it's resting on? Obviously with a large oven you could just hang it in there (frame, or larger parts etc.). I've watched a few YouTube videos but it's always been very small parts hung up in the oven.
 
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cole.pinnow said:
I've never powder coated anything...so I have a (few) question(s). I know you have to have a clean surface, bare metal, etc., then hook up to the current for the gun and dust the powder on and bake. But when you put it in the oven, are there marks in the powder coat since you have to rest it on the grates? Like doesn't the powder liquefy and stick/create an odd pattern from what it's resting on? Obviously with a large oven you could just hang it in there (frame, or larger parts etc.). I've watched a few YouTube videos but it's always been very small parts hung up in the oven.

I'm no expert or pro...

so what I do is blast the piece and wipe it down with acetone. I have bare stranded 6AWG ground wire that I untwist the individual wires off to use as hangers and a spot to attach the negative lead for the gun. For large pieces, I take one of the baking racks out of the oven and attach the piece and then test fitting it into the oven at the highest slot that I can. Once I am sure it will fit and the door will close, I then heat the oven up to 380 degrees (which is what the powder I have cures at). I put the piece in to bake for 20 minutes to out gas it. This will help burn off anything that could hurt your powder and the finish product. I take it out and let it cool. You can spray it hot, but I like it cool in case I touch something hot and I get burned and end up making a mess. I built what is called a pregnant oven so I could fit the frame and swingarm in. This wasn't perfect, but it served it's purpose. The part usually has to bake for 20 min. Check with the manufacturer, times and temps vary.

For small pieces, I get them set up on the rack and then spray them, transfer the whole rack into the oven and then back out to cool when done. I think yesterday I did 8 pieces at once...

I have been told, but have never tried it, that if you find once you remove the piece and see a light spot or a spot you missed, you can respray it while hot and then throw it back in the oven (though I have been lucky each time). I have also been told that with transparent colors, you spray like a gray or silver before spraying the transparent, so as long as you can get a bare spot to hook the negative to, you can powder over powder.

Biggest thing is making sure things fit and you can transfer the part in and out of the oven without touching anything. Two people is also a good idea. I have found the more I do, the more tips I figure out. You can also start with a toaster oven and small parts, as long as it heats up to 400 degrees.

An LED light is helpful when it comes to looking over the part to see if you missed anything before baking. I have also found that if I used white after I did black or red, I have found the tiniest specks of red or black or both. If you plan on doing lighter and darker colors, clean your gun well and then do some test pieces in the lighter color to make sure that you don't have speckles.

Just remember not to use your house oven...your wife won't like it...

Best thing about this is that once it has cooled, you can put it on. No clear coat, humidity/temp isn't as much of an issue. You could basically take a part off, blast it, pre cook it, powder it/bake it and put it back on in a few hours compared to a day or two waiting for the paint to cure between coats, sags, orange peel, fish eyes, over spray etc etc.

If you are not happy with the result, use aircraft stripper, and start your steps over. Had to do that on my rear drum cover.

I wish I could have powdered the whole bike...lol


There are probably 63 other tips but those are the most I can come up with without boring you to death.


Cheers
 
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Sweet! Thanks for the in depth response. That is exactly what I was looking for. Do you have an Eastwood gun? You can get one of those starter kits pretty cheap.
 
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cole.pinnow said:
Sweet! Thanks for the in depth response. That is exactly what I was looking for. Do you have an Eastwood gun? You can get one of those starter kits pretty cheap.

No I have the Harbor Freight (which was on sale yesterday for like $54 if you were a member of their club, $69 for regular folks like me). Mine works well. It just takes time getting used to controlling the flow of powder. There is an adjustment on the gun itself. One other tip: water/oil filter. I have one at the compressor with a regulator (set at 10 psi) and one on the gun (and not the cheap disposable $3 ones).

I may go with a better one someday. I have been kicking around putting an ad on CL to offer powdering for small parts to help fund an oven build or trade off for services to people who can work on my various projects...

It's not as hard as it seems. If you have plenty of parts that you can practice on, then you can master it after awhile.

"If you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball"
 
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Virago1113 said:
No I have the Harbor Freight.

I didn't even think of that. Currently watching an Eastwood on eBay - but I've got a Harbor Freight like 45 mins away otherwise.

Virago1113 said:
to help fund an oven build

There is a guy selling his near me. Obviously doesn't help you but its like 5 feet long and 3 feet wide. Never even crossed my mind to build a bigger oven...wouldn't be too difficult I wouldn't think.. Would be perfect for bigger stuff IMO.
 
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Powdered the front brake components. Just need to have the rebuild kits put in.

Also started polishing the forks. 1 down, 1 to go...





 
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