Abandoned title etc. Has anybody ever had any luck with this?

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So I found an old Nighthawk 650cc for $150. it fires, has compression but no title.

I would love to get it but there's no title. The bike is also out of my home state (NYS). I figured that perhaps I could apply for the abandoned title. Has anybody ever tried this?

I haven't seen the bike yet, i gotta make the trip upstate but for $150 I am really tempted to get it.

thoughts?
 
Yeah I was also wondering about this. I just bought a bike in PA and the guy I bought it from didnt have the title.
 
man life is too short to be dealing with all that guvment red tape. buy the thing and part it out or build yourself a dune buggy/ go cart
 
ok so here's how it goes in Utah... this is what im going through now

you must have a bill of sale!
basically you need to call the DMV to schedule a vehicle identification, this is with the DMV special services or investigative unit. there they come and fill out a paper to properly ID the bike and vin number. after they give you a packet to fill out along with 4 pictures of the bike, 1 from each side to evaluate the condition of the bike. on the papers you fill out how much the bike is worth and the pictures are to confirm, if you LIE and its over $1000 in utah then you have to pay double the bond that they set on the bike. also you are to include a narrative of how you got the bike etc.. and provide documentation supporting that. then you turn in your packet to the DMV special services office and they let you know in 90 days about the title and how much and such.... im still waiting for mine
 
Poster, what state are you in? The title process varies wildly, depending on the state you wish to register it. Some states...not a problem at all. Others....impossible.
 
Session101, I'm also in Utah, I've applied for "lost title" and been granted titles on 8 bikes this year alone. The Utah DMV's enforcement of the policies must really differ from one office to another. I've heard a lot of stories in Utah about people not being able to get titles, but I've never had a problem, nor have I had to provide photos of the bike, just a BOS, aqusition statement, $9, and VIN verification. They've all been within 1 to 6 weeks. Two of them were done without a BOS even. You may have bought that bike from me. Is it a gold cl350?
 
It's a pain in the ass in CT.. AND I just to throw a little caution into the mix here... I have heard of people selling bikes without titles that ended up being bikes that they had stopped paying on, usually because of a crash. Theres no reason to buy a bike without a title, and I havent in years. If the current owner wants to sell it have them get the title before you pay for it. Remember... if it sounds too good to be true... it is.
 
I will continue to purchase untitled bikes. You must know that there is always a posibilty of the bike having a lein on it or being reported stolen and getting burned. I'm not suggesting it to anyone that isn't prepaired to deal with it. I suggest getting the VIN number before purchase and having your DMV do a check on it to make sure it isn't reported stolen. Almost all of the 30+ bikes I've had in the last few years are 35-50 years old and are not in the local DMV system because they haven't been registered in so long. They process them as a new vehicle.

I know these posts are not helpful to the original poster in NY and I will try and find your local laws and requirements and post that info.
 
JohnGoFast said:
I will continue to purchase untitled bikes. You must know that there is always a posibilty of the bike having a lein on it or being reported stolen and getting burned. I'm not suggesting it to anyone that isn't prepaired to deal with it. I suggest getting the VIN number before purchase and having your DMV do a check on it to make sure it isn't reported stolen. Almost all of the 30+ bikes I've had in the last few years are 35-50 years old and are not in the local DMV system because they haven't been registered in so long. They process them as a new vehicle.

I know these posts are not helpful to the original poster in NY and I will try and find your local laws and requirements and post that info.
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I did look up the local rules and etc regarding abandoned titles. But thanks anyway. I was just curious how easy it actually is to do it. Freaking DMV in NYC doesn't communicate with their counterparts in different boroughs in the city, I doubt they communicate with their counterparts in different states.

When checking the VIN number for a stolen bike I only check it in my state or in the state where I bought he bike from as well?

I was late by few hours. Somebody bought the bike before me. :(
 
JohnGoFast said:
Session101, I'm also in Utah, I've applied for "lost title" and been granted titles on 8 bikes this year alone. The Utah DMV's enforcement of the policies must really differ from one office to another. I've heard a lot of stories in Utah about people not being able to get titles, but I've never had a problem, nor have I had to provide photos of the bike, just a BOS, aqusition statement, $9, and VIN verification. They've all been within 1 to 6 weeks. Two of them were done without a BOS even. You may have bought that bike from me. Is it a gold cl350?
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just read that, YUP!
 
In New Mexico, it's not too bad. You have to schedule a VIN inspection with an officer that is certified to do the check. They will run the VIN to see if it's stolen or if there are leins. If the engine is not the original, they'll run that, too. You DO have to have a bill of sale. My 750 Kawi was abandoned at a dealer, so it wasn't too much trouble. Then, to register, you have to have the NCIC documentation from the inspecting officer, proof of insurance, and a bond for the title that you have to keep for at least a year. Now the hard part: you have to find a MVD clerk that knows what you are trying to do. In New Mexico, it won't be anyone under 45 years old. I went to three different places before I found an older guy )Older than the 20 something year old bimbos usually behind the desk) who knew what to do. It took him a while, but I got the title and registration.
 
I think it is different state to state. i recently got a title for a 72 cb750 that i bought without a title. I had to have a bill of sale from the seller,
and fill out another affidavit form that states i didn't steal it, it was over 25 years old and less than $3000 in value. I really think they are just
concerned about getting the tax money from the sale-therefore bill of sale required. By the way I'm in Tennessee. That being said, i wouldn't pay
more than "parts bike" value for any bike without a title, that way if you get one, you are money ahead.
 
Gnigma said:
In New Mexico, it's not too bad. You have to schedule a VIN inspection with an officer that is certified to do the check. They will run the VIN to see if it's stolen or if there are leins. If the engine is not the original, they'll run that, too. You DO have to have a bill of sale. My 750 Kawi was abandoned at a dealer, so it wasn't too much trouble. Then, to register, you have to have the NCIC documentation from the inspecting officer, proof of insurance, and a bond for the title that you have to keep for at least a year. Now the hard part: you have to find a MVD clerk that knows what you are trying to do. In New Mexico, it won't be anyone under 45 years old. I went to three different places before I found an older guy )Older than the 20 something year old bimbos usually behind the desk) who knew what to do. It took him a while, but I got the title and registration.
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This is how it works in Arkansas too. Except for the twenty-year-olds, nobody in our DMV is under 50. :)

I'm in the midst of the process now, with my R5. ::)
 
Iowa's easy, the proccess is detailed on the IDOT site. I've done half a dozen bikes.

Make friend with a local LEO, have him run the VIN before you submit anything. Anything bad should be in the nationwide database.

The DOT lady that normally comes to inspect my bikes tells me they do occasionally bust people for making false title statements. Like selling your bike to a buddy in a non-title state then having him sell it back. They're not dumb. Sounds like you get no mercy at that point. So in Iowa at least it's stupid to do it any other than the totally legit way.
 
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