Before & after

alexmac

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Am I the only one who is sometimes horrified the "after" photo of some of these cafe conversions? :eek:

I guess everyone has their own tastes but some beautiful classic bikes have been defiled in the name of "cafe".
 
I thought it was me being an over 55 guy buy damn some of these bikes are just butchered! I see the before pic and it was a really nice bike. But to each his own!
This was my cafe bike nobody liked 25 years ago.........People told me I screwed up a good bike too so who knows?????
 

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I agree 100 percent, i see some of these after pictures and cant fathom what the owner was thinking.

I think if a bike is in very nice original shape, chopping it up, and rattle canning it black/red is not a good idea.

I have no problem with junk bikes being turned into what ever as long as they are kept on the road, but nice bikes shouldnt be trashed in the name of Café.

This is exactly why my CB125s is hardly modified, i would feel bad destroying something that nice.
 
This is just something that goes without saying. It happens all the time, and always has. You just notice it more now, because
it's posted all over the internet, where a number of years ago, it wasn't. It sickens me as well when I see a really nice looking, original, 30 or 40 something year old bike get basically mutilated into a "custom". About the only thing you can do is secure yourself a nice original copy of the said bike and keep it that way. Just remember, not everyone is as appreciative of the machines that have survived the test of time and the hands of the butchers! If they all stayed pristine, then they would never be collectible in the first place...
 
I plan on turning my 82 CB900 into a cafe but, make it so all stock parts can be put back on.. for resale value or if I want to restore it later :)
 
stepka said:
I plan on turning my 82 CB900 into a cafe but, make it so all stock parts can be put back on.. for resale value or if I want to restore it later :)

That's a big fat compromise my friend ;)

Make it original or jump in with both feet and do it properly.
 
Maybe you guys have a point. Maybe not though. You're here at a cafe racer website. Check my sig. If you have a problem with cutting shit up this isn't the place for you. I personally support anyone building their own. Even if it's dog ugly at least they built it. As far as survivors go these were mass produced bikes. Emphasis on MASS. How often do you see someone cuttIng up something truly rare? And even when it happens, it was their money to buy the bike and their perogative what to do with it. I hacked up my 72 cb750 from a survivor to a custom. Maybe you don't like it, but seeing as how I'm not a sheep, I don't really care what you think. I like it. If I built it for you to like I have a feeling I wouldn't care for it at all. The point is these people are learning. In my bike's build thread you can see the progression from rudimentary levels of work to the level that I've come to. If it costs the world one 72 cb750 to get there I'm fine with that.
Rant over.
 
These guys have obviously never seen Noel's work.

:)

It's your bike. Do whatever you want.
 
Deviant1 said:
Maybe you guys have a point. Maybe not though. You're here at a cafe racer website. Check my sig. If you have a problem with cutting shit up this isn't the place for you. I personally support anyone building their own. Even if it's dog ugly at least they built it. As far as survivors go these were mass produced bikes. Emphasis on MASS. How often do you see someone cuttIng up something truly rare? And even when it happens, it was their money to buy the bike and their perogative what to do with it. I hacked up my 72 cb750 from a survivor to a custom. Maybe you don't like it, but seeing as how I'm not a sheep, I don't really care what you think. I like it. If I built it for you to like I have a feeling I wouldn't care for it at all. The point is these people are learning. In my bike's build thread you can see the progression from rudimentary levels of work to the level that I've come to. If it costs the world one 72 cb750 to get there I'm fine with that.
Rant over.

I have no problem with custom bikes. I love them. There are plenty of fantastic bikes on this site. My point is: Isn't the goal of
doing a custom bike to make it better than it was originally?
 
I bought my first bike about a month ago - I've been doing alot of cars before (but the lady in my life doesn't appriciate zero rideheight and wide wheels as much as me, and I almost never drive our car = she won and I bought a bike to stimulate my creative side), so I know I wouldn't be able to leave it be. I had a keen eye on a beautiful CB550, didn't need more than a fresh coat of paint on tank and sidecovers, then it was almost like new. Knowing me, I left it for someone else who would truly appriciate it, and chose a KZ650 instead that needed to be saved.

So I agree with the ones saying: how often does a beautiful, original, collectible suffer a massive chop. I haven't seen it much. And to me the world would be a boring place if every single old bike, was restored to it's original state.
 
I agree with the OP in that it is a shame to take a nice clean original and mangle it up. Now if you take that original and make a show stopper out of it that's a different story. There are alot of hack jobs out there that are unsafe and look like garbage and I can't fathom why someone would want to do that to a clean bike.
 
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clem said:
There are alot of hack jobs out there that are unsafe and look like garbage and I can't fathom why someone would want to do that to a clean bike.

Because not everyone out there has the talent to build the show stopper unfortunately. Talent is learned through experience, and even then sometimes never achieved fully. The greatest travesty to me is jumping in head first to a build, getting in over your head and then never finishing what you started, or ruining the platform for a possible future build. Building a full on custom isn't easy, so work in stages where you're comfortable and then climb the ladder as you gain experience. The best builds go through a multitude of incarnations before they reach their full potential. Look at Ringo, Troy, Tim, etc. just my $.02! ;)
 
I say people that defile original bikes are doing all the collectors a favor by making their "pristine original" that much more rare. It's all just metal sold as a product. Chop it up and have fun.
 
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Kanticoy said:
. The greatest travesty to me is jumping in head first to a build, getting in over your head and then never finishing what you started, or ruining the platform for a possible future build.

Exactly!
 
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