cb200 battery question

[Bert Jan]

Simple question, can't seem to find it with ye ol' google.

Can i run a cb200 without a battery? My guess is NO, because the ignition coil has a black/white wire connecting to black when key is turned, causing permanent power on the ingition coil.

Now, when i hook up a batteryloader directly to that black-white wire (and ground) i have spark.
No power is no spark.
Don't get me wrong, i do want to run a battery on the bike for starting and such, but the battery i have now gives me roughly 5 volt and 0.5 amps. I have no spark when i attach that battery, for obvious reasons i guess but i'm curious if the coil needs 'some' power (like the 5v 0,5 amps) or 'kabang!' power like 12v 9amps. I know there are battery emitors (or something like that) but how can those things create 12v 9amps without a battery?
I'm going to get a new battery and such, so no worries or hurry, just curious and eager to learn

Thanks!

 

[Bert Jan]

no-one?

 

[Big R]

I believe you are thinking about a capacitor. It kinda replaces a battery by storing a little bit of energy from the stator. At idle however, it doesn't have enough electricity to power the coils AND the lighting system.

So essentially, the battery (or capacitor) is needed to complete the circuit.

 

[honda007]

I believe you are thinking about a capacitor. It kinda replaces a battery by storing a little bit of energy from the stator. At idle however, it doesn't have enough electricity to power the coils AND the lighting system.

So essentially, the battery (or capacitor) is needed to complete the circuit.

A cb200 has a permanent magnet rotor hasn't it?
That means you can make it work without a battery.
You'll have to rewire some stuff....

 

[Bert Jan]

Well, i'm not sure about that, so if someone can enlighten me on this that would be great. Is it in case of a permanent magnet rotor possible to run lights and engine without battery? Would be awesome!

 

[teazer]

CB200 has a permanent magnet and does not need a battery IF the stator generates enough power at 400 rpm or whatever speed it reaches when kicked over.

You could test that by disconnecting the alternator and hook up a multimeter to the stator connector. Kick the engine over and see if it makes 12v or more at that speed. If it does, then it can be converted to a condenser (battery eliminator).

 

[cyclefreak]

After some battery issues with my cb200. I stuck a capacitor in its place temporarily and it runs fine.

 

[Bert Jan]

Ok thanks all, i know enough!