CB360 simplified wiring questions

[thrillseeker]

I posted this in the simplified wiring diagram thread but figured that was the wrong place.

After a busy year so far getting married and moving to South Carolina, I'm getting really close to finishing my bike. Its literally coming down to the wire. sorry, bad joke I was wondering if you guys could help me figure out a couple things with my modified wiring diagram.

my goals:
1. kick start only
2. no dummy lights
3. combo regulator rectifier with spliced white/yellow for constant charging
4. keep turn signals so I can ride at night (led)
5. possibly replace ignition switch with toggle switch (the ignition switch got lost in the move but I'm sure I could buy one on ebay)
6. simplification for ease of service
7. headlight always on (led) thanks spark moto!
8. convert all lights to led

Assumptions: (please correct me if I'm wrong)
use 14 awg wire for main battery wire and battery ground.
use 18 awg wire for pretty much everything else.

Questions:
1. what is the light just above the front right turn signal in the wiring diagram? (brown wire leading to it)
2. Can I remove it? maybe I already have? ha
3. is a kill switch (separate from ignition or main switch) really needed?
4. why is there a ground wire going from the left rear turn signal to the tail light? does that attach to the frame?

Here's my modified wiring diagram so far. You can see I have not replaced the ignition switch with a toggle switch yet.

 

[irk miller]

I use 8 gauge for the main battery and ground to frame. 18 is fine most everywhere else. Pretty sure the light you are referring to is a running light, which is also on the other side. Kill switch is not necessary. I usually run a toggle that turns power on from battery (keyswitch) and a second toggle that powers coils/ignition. Sometimes that same toggle runs lights, sometimes I separate the two. Rear tail light is grounded to it's case, which is essentially to frame. You can run one ground for all the rear lights together.

Where in South Carolina? I grew up around Landrum and Greer, where my parents still live. Lived many years in Columbia and Charleston too. We have lots of peeps around the state still. I'm just over the river in Augusta now.

 

[thrillseeker]

Thanks deviant. I'm in Charleston area. Right now we're fortunate enough to have a house to stay at temporarily on Isle of Palms! We're living it up while we settle in and find a place of our own. By the way, have you ever heard of deviant art? awesome website.

If I bypass the kill switch, I assume I just run the black switched power wire right to the coils?

I just noticed the ground wires for the speedo, tacko, and left front turn signal are also just wired to each other and not to the main ground. I assume that's because one of them is also mounted to the frame, causing a ground?

Now that I think of it, none of these green wires in the diagram actually connect right to the frame. but my bike's green wire has a frame connection next to the coils. hmmm maybe someone added that later on?

 

[adventurco]

the green ground on the CB360 and a lot of Hondas has a ring connector and grounds out to the frame behind the coil mounting plate on the right side.

Not sure why you'd want to bypass the kill switch, even a simple toggle will do and its a pain in the ass to get the 360s into neutral sometimes while they're running. I usually just kill mine when i'm done with a ride or gassing up and switch it into neutral after. Its not really "needed" but its nice to have one you can flip with your thumb rather than have to reach down and turn off the key in case of an emergency. To each his own, if you want to bypass it why not just put a butt connector between the black and black/white so when you want to wire it back in you still have the wires there

The light to the right of the right directional looks like the hi beam indicator light most likely.

 

[thrillseeker]

the green ground on the CB360 and a lot of Hondas has a ring connector and grounds out to the frame behind the coil mounting plate on the right side.

Not sure why you'd want to bypass the kill switch, even a simple toggle will do and its a pain in the ass to get the 360s into neutral sometimes while they're running. I usually just kill mine when i'm done with a ride or gassing up and switch it into neutral after.

Thanks. nice to know thats like that from the factory. I wonder why they don't include those things in the wiring diagrams.

To answer your question, I'm running headlight always on so I replaced that bulky switch/throttle control unit with a simpler throttle only unit. I don't usually have a hard time finding neutral on my bike. I just throw it into first and the slightest pressure bumps it into neutral. This does have me thinking though. I wonder if I make my toggle switch easily accessible with my right hand, I can just turn the bike off while the clutch is still depressed. seems like that should solve both problems assuming turning the main power off would actually kill the engine.

 

[adventurco]

I run my kill switch through a headlight hi/lo switch on the left hand control, near the blinkers and horn. I have a throttle only setup on the right side. Since you are going kick only, are you putting a smaller/lower Ah battery in? I think I am running a 5 Ah battery on the 360, but I have my headlight wired up to a 3-way toggle that is lo-off-hi so I can kick with the headlight off for max power to the ignition. Dunno how much of a difference it actually makes but prob saved my battery from dying a few times while troubleshooting.

 

[thrillseeker]

This has made me realize that I need to re-route the rest of the wires going to the right handlebar control...

I guess the brown/blue and red/black wires just need to connect directly to the black wire? Or better yet, get rid of those wires and have the black wire go directly to the fuses for the headlight and tail light?

EDIT:
I double checked the headlight switch schematic and it looks like it does just connect the black to those two wires so I guess my plan of running the black wire right to the fuses seems right.

 

[thrillseeker]

As far as batteries go, I got a BikeMaster TruGel MG4L-BS 4ah battery.


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