CB900 Custom and Directional signals wiring help.....Front WON'T flash......

Bolshevik

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Ok.....here goes.....My father in law got me a set of directional signals from the local Triumph dealer (Motorcycle Enthusiasts). They are 2 wire (Yellow and Black), universal. I have the wiring diagram for the 1982 Honda CB900 Custom, in detail, clear, and in color. I can read a wiring schematic, so I began assembling the bucket. I ordered an original LEFT HAND control off of eBay ($12.50), as the original was previously damaged, and the Suzuki one I was going to use was rather complex (I wanted the ability to turn on/off the headlight). So, going with the "Plug and Play" option, I plugged the main harness in, plugged in the headlamp, and turned the key. Headlight functions properly (on, lo/hi). Then I begin hooking up the directional signals. Out of the pigtail from the switch, I connect the Yellow directional wire to the factory Orange/White (O/W) stripped wire. The black wire to the solid Orange wire (O) that runs to the indicator/rear Directional light. I turn on the key. Both lights light up as running lights. I hit the switch to "blink". The rear blinks. The front light goes out. I turn the switch off, and both come back to running lights.

This happens with BOTH right/left directionals. Now, this bike had originally been fitted with a Vetter fairing. The Vetter fairing wiring harness was removed and wiring exposed.

I am wondering about a possible ground? On the factory wiring diagram, it shows all 4 directionals grounded. If that is the case, then the rear directional are grounded by affixing to the frame/bobbed fender. The front go through the bucked mounting brackets, a metal sleeve that sits inside a rubber grommet that is held in place by a nut, against a washer, against the rubber grommet.

When I look at the main harness, I see a Green Ground Wire with 3 female wire connections in a line. Now, the rear had this same set up, except it had 4, 2 to the rear light, 1 to each directional. I was able to add a ground wire to the new tail light and plug that in. Remember, this had a Vetter fairing, so I do not know what the original factory lights/connections looked like. I am wondering .......... Do I need to hook up a ground wire to each FRONT directional for them to blink? Like I said, there are only 2 wires on the aftermarket directionals, and the rear do blink.

I did reverse the wires to see if that changed anything, and it did not. Rear R/L blink, then return to running lights when switch is off. Front R/L go out when turned to "blink", then return as running lights. Lastly, voltage and continuity were checked. When a light tester was applied to the O and B wires that run to the back from the headlight bucket, the light tester did flash. Just cannot figure out why the 2 front will NOT flash........
 
I'm wondering if your blinker relay is good. If it's not drawing enough power. (blinkers too small) it will blink really slow. If they draw more than the normal blinkers, they will blink much faster. If your fronts are wired the same as your back, it could be that relay
 
Thanks for the replies... I so appreciate this!

Ok, so, if it is the relay, do I replace it with this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honda-Flasher-Relay-12volt-2-prong-Blinker-Winker-CB900-CB900C-CB900F-Custom-900-/310597928964?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4851144804&vxp=mtr

Or, is there an upgrade that I can go to? Is there a specific brand to go with? It is a 2 prong relay. I am going to check to see if they're LEDs. I don't believe they are, but I will check.....
 
You can pick up any 2-prong flasher at an auto parts store, so long as the lights aren't LEDs.

Since your rear lamps are flashing, though, I expect that something has been wired incorrectly up front rather than the flasher relay being bad.
 
As far as i know, blinkers are orange and light-blue. A black wire (positive) goes to the blinker-relay. A grey wire comes out of it and goes into the switch. Then, two wires comes out. An orange one and a blue one. The blinkers connect to either blue or orange and ground onto the mount, completing the circuit.

Please upload your diagram so we can check it for faults. Thanks.

Front bulbs might have higher/lower wattage then rear, check that.
 
UPDATE......I got them working properly. Apparently, the bike can be set up for flasher AND running lights together. The aftermarket has 2 wires Yellow and Black, these are flasher only.....although, I did originally connect them and had both. However, because they were on for some time, they got hot as hell, and drained the battery. I disassembled the aftermarket directional lights. The Black is the GROUND (it is soldered to the inside spring. So, what I did was connect the Orange and Orange/White wires together to the marker light. The solid orange runs directly to the REAR. I connected the BLACK to the GREEN ground. At the rear, each light connects as such(ORANGE to the left and a ground/BLUE to the right and a ground.....duh! LOL!) Now, BOTH sets of directionals work properly. I actually unwrapped an original harness that I had extra. This also helped me to identify other wires that were sticking out that were too faded to give a positive identification to. I really want to thank all you for responding. I appreciate all of you. I will upload the wiring diagram, or post a link to it, for further study.
 
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