Fork Oil

Goldberg2363

Been Around the Block
So I'm about to rebuild my forks on my Yamaha xs400 and i know nothing of fork oil. I understand that using a 30w will make it stiffer then a 20w but what are the benefits of doing that? My only guess would be that with the forks giving less your putting more force on the tires creating more traction in a turn and when braking you would lose less braking energy to fork give. My manual says to use 20w if it would benefit the handling i would like to make it stiffer so I'm thinking a 30w. Also what are the benefits of using fork specific oil vs motor oil.
 
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Goldberg2363 said:
So I'm about to rebuild my forks on my Yamaha xs400 and i know nothing of fork oil. I understand that using a 30w will make it stiffer then a 20w but what are the benefits of doing that? My only guess would be that with the forks giving less your putting more force on the tires creating more traction in a turn and when braking you would lose less braking energy to fork give. My manual says to use 20w if it would benefit the handling i would like to make it stiffer so I'm thinking a 30w. Also what are the benefits of using fork specific oil vs motor oil.

My forks feel super spongy and I have no idea when the oil was last replaced.  I would like to know the answer to Goldberg's question too.

Anybody?

Joe said he put heavy weight fork oil in all his rides.  What weight?  Fork specific oil?  What does adding more or using less do?

My manual (CL450) says to use 10W-30.  And, to use 7.3 oz for a CB and 9.8 oz for a CL.


*EDIT*
Grrrr. Reading further, it says to use automatic transmission fluid for my year bike (K5-K7). WTF?
 
*EDIT*
Grrrr. Reading further, it says to use automatic transmission fluid for my year bike (K5-K7). WTF?
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My understanding is that Auto trans Fluid doesn't aerate. I think this is a fairly common thing to do.
 
fork oil dampens the fork travel, by being squeezed through a little hole to allow the fork to move, the thinner the oil, the faster it can make it through the hole and the faster the fork can move for a given force. thicker fork oil will not necessarily "improve" handling, it won't keep the fork from bottoming out during braking or cornering either, as those are long sustained loads and rely on the resistance of the spring to keep the wheel within suspension travel. thicker fork oil will make for a bumpier ride, as little cracks in the pavement or stones etc, will move the wheel too fast for a thick oil to allow absorbtion of the motion, and it will travel through the forks into the frame. thinner fork oil will decrease dampening and can cause the bike suspension to "vibrate", like when you hit a bump, the spring will allow the wheel to move up, and with insufficient dampening, its momentum allows it to carry up further, store energy in the spring, and travel down further than it should, and repeat this until the energy of the bump is dissipated... as far as atf fluid... no clue on using that on forks, it's an oil that is designed to increase in viscosity in regions that undergo mechanical stress, like in the torque converter of a transmission, what it will do with fork performance, i'm not sure
 
Using ATF is pretty common practice, but there is 'fork oil' out there too - I wouldn't bother swapping in engine oil tho - not sure what the differences are, and maybe its only packaging, but for my $5 I'll trust the marketing folks at Yamaha and buy Fork Oil, or like I say, toss ATF in there.

Make sure you clean out the forks well and measure the amount of fluid you're putting back in there as accurately as you can. A large graduated cylinder works well for this.
 
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