honda xbr500 cafe racer - we only have 2 months to completion

sinbad85 said:
ide say go all out on this.....
that frame looks so......
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inspiring!
did you follow some sort of tightening sequence for the genny cover?
did you grease your new bolts?....
did you grease your gasket?
i only ask because im interested, i recently did the same (replace all bolts with allen heads)....
i followed the workshop manual but the torque settings in there i believe are for dry bolts....
i didnt break anything though....

what are you going to do?
get it welded? or source a newy?

yep mate did everything as it should be done, (i have been building bikes for 30odd years now)
it wasnt even close to the torque setting
a new used one arrived this morning & is on its way to the polishers
 
we bought a new case for it instead of having it welded, the crack ran down most of the inside of the case.
its arrived & gone straight to the polisher, should be back next tues / wed
the chrome engine mounts should be with me by monday so should get the engine in by tuesday
 
Didnt get much done last week as we were very busy with the cafe racer seats we sell, brought 3 new types out & selling loads.
Had another look at the carbon seat we made for this bike & it looks too wide at the back & a bit bulky too, so i got my lad who is an ace plug maker(does all ours) to make a seat plug especially for this bike he only had 1 day as he was needed to make seats that have been sold.
whilst he was doing that i prepped the tank for painting ready to make the moulds.
This is what we ended up with after a bit of black 2k paint. mould making started today.
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I tried to get new swinging arm & wheel spindles from honda as these were a bit grotty,but they are no longer available so had a word with my chromer who plated the nut ends, not only that but he also plated the end that pokes through the nut just before the thread (i never asked him to - but thats one of the reason i use him)
The chrome engine mounts came back on saturday so we skipped lunch today to have a little play, just waiting for some more bits coming back from the polisher & the moulds to be finished tomorrow then we can make the carbon bodywork
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the new engine casing is back from the polishers & on the bike.
the bike is back on its old wheels while the new spoked ones are being rebuilt, had to put it on the wheels so we could get the right level for the tank to fit.
not got that much done actually on the bike this week as we have been busy making some moulds,
for it these are now ready to make a few carbon bits for this bike they include seat )see picture of it now made), tank,chain guard, headlight bowl & fuse box cover
this is how it is looking at the moment
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WHAT DO YOU GET THIS TIME OF YEAR WHEN EVERYONE GOES ON HOLIDAY?
SOD ALL DONE ON THIS BLOODY PROJECT!!!
The polisher has some parts & more importantly the rims he is away till tuesday,The guy that builds my wheels goes away tomorrow so cannot get my wheels done for at least another week & the chromer has gone away for a week whilst he still has a few bits from the bike that i need.
The 2 months is up next week & due to these spiteful people taking holidays just to slow this project down, i wont make it. but it doesnt matter s its my bike now not the customers.
had a few disasters this week
1 put the rs rear hub in the parts washer to get all the solid grease off & a great chunk of e metal fell out around one of the bearing mounts & noticed one of the cush rubber mounts had been glued back on - into the scrap ally bin
2 couldnt find another rs rear hub or wheel anywhere so ended up buying a cb350f cb400f wheel from the early 80's
3 that cost me another £60
4 the front disc i had was warped (cost me another £22 for 2 mint ones delivered)
5 lost the charger for my digi camera so can not post any pictures this week
on the plus side some things have gone well
1 the new wheel does not need any machining, offsett is perfect just need to make some spacers
2 found a small company that will make me a sprocket for the cb wheel in xbr pitch within 7-10 days for a good price
3 got the front hub spaced up & painted it in the same colour as the frame
4 bought new braided oil lines, my lad uses a place who is very good on price & fastens them to the original connector- looks clean & new but standard
5 finished tank, front mudguard rear & mudguard moulds & made a carbon chain guard
6 polished oil tank & breather fitted back in the frame
we are getting there slowly,
7 also shaved 2mm of the caliper carrier so everything is aligned & working on the front.
we are getting there slowly,
will either get a new charger or new camera next week & post some pics
 
sorry for the lack of posts, i have not been skiving just very busy.I am in the process of getting 2 websites sorted one for the ducati carbon & the other for the cafe racer parts, lots of photo taking & adding items to the data bases.
i decided that as everyone else was on holiday & i couldnt get my parts so i wouldnt get much done on the bike & business was quiet i might as well join them. So i had a few days off too :D
back to work now & still waiting for bits to turn up, so i thought i would tackle the wiring, which was a right mess loads of twisted wires in insulating tape, have removed the indicator wires & relays relocated all the components under the seat hump & just about sorted it. All soldered with heat shrink over the joints -took bloody hours.
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The body work is coming along nicely, the tank cover came out of the mould today, the seat unit, mudguards(front & rear), & chain guard are all made just need paint & lacquer.Tomorrow i am making the wheel spacers at my mates machine shop & hopefully collecting the spoked front wheel along with the front mudguard brace from the chromer, early next week we should have the front end all together & on the bike.

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I worked it out today that 6 solid days would have it finished & mot'd if i concentrated on it.
unfortunately i have bits to make for customers, 2 websites to finish building (1 for cafe racer seats & 1 for carbon fibre) & new products to bring out, so probably another 2-3 weeks should see it finished & a few late nights.
Front end just about done now, still fighting with the bloody wiring though,
just got to shorten the front mudguard by a couple of inches at the front then lacquer it.
back wheel back tomorrow & sprocket & brake back plate back from polishers on friday.
might have a saturday morning on it to make a roller,
(thats all it will ever be until the wiring is done, not my favorite job)as its getting very exciting now its coming together
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The good news is
we have it on its own SPOKED WHEEL as a rolling bike
the bad news is i still havent done the wiring (still filling me with dread!!

this week we have it built up as a fully rolling bike,all spacers are correctly sized, both mudguards have been lacquered as has the chain guard, the inner tank has started to be fabricated & i have even started to make the rearset plates (no pics yet as they still look a bit rough.My lad finished all this weeks jobs this morning so didnt have anything on for today, we have been trying to work out what to do with the exhaust as its a bit grotty even though it was a purpose made stainless system(probably about 10 years ago!we had a quote for the 2 downpipes from a so called mate (he is when he wants carbon bits making he is not when i want an exhaust making) the robbing git wanted £200 for the downpipes alone. anyway my lad decided to have a go at cleaning & polishing them up even if we ended up matt blacking them.See the picture below for what he did, managed to do both in an hour or so.
Im away at a trade show for 3 days next week but project bike days are
Monday is put aside for doing the electrics & my lad is getting on with mounting the rear light in the seat,fitting the aero cap in the tank & flatting the tank. & seat for lacquer.
Tuesday making the exhaust link pipe to the mega exhaust & finishing the rearset mounting plates
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Had a short week this week as ive been to the bike show in Germany, but still managed to get both mudguards lacquered & now fitted, fabricated a stainless collector box & my lad polished it up & got it all fitted up with the new mega on.Had some new braided oil pipes made up to the tank & fitted them along with new o rings.Not a bad 3 hours work!
Started to cut the backing plates out for the rear sets, they should be done & fitted next week
Then i WILL do the electrics
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I have been a brave lad this week very brave indeed :shock:
FINALLY
I have spent most of the last 2 days sorting the electrics probably 8 hours in total.Removing all the wiring not needed like indicator, rear & brake light warning system, side stand switch & clutch switch. Also removed all those dodgy taped & crimped Honda joints replacing them with proper soldered joints covered in heat shrink & extended the cdi, starter solenoid & rectifier wires so they fit in the seat hump, the rectifier sits under the carbon undertray, see pic 2.to keep nice & cool, everything works as it should, turns over on the button & i even get a spark. Did have a panic moment when i couldnt get the clock lights (illumination not warning) so ran a positive & negative straight to the wires & still nothing put test light across the feeds & we had light, nothing i had done wrong just 4 blown bulbs in both of the clocks.
Fitted the new gold o ring chain & carbon chain guard & made the carbon number plate & rear light bracket today, unfortunately i dropped the led rear light & it now does all sorts of strange things, 3 bulbs on all the time only half the bulbs come on for the brake light, some leds brighter than others, must have cracked the pcb (ordered another one today along with a new battery)
Tomorrow i will fit the choke & throttle cables & fire her up for the first time since rebuild.
The only jobs left to do are lacquer the tank & seat & do the graphics on them, chequers down the center of both in the same colour as the rest of the bike, make the mounting brackets to fasten the seat unit to the undertray which is secured to the frame, make & fit the starter to battery / solenoid lead, wire the new rear light & fit the number plate then its done just in time for winter!!
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Ringo said:
That looks mighty nice!
cheers mate
NO im not dead :lol: im back now, i went on holiday for a couple of weeks, came back got whooping cough & felt sh1t for 4 weeks & then spent the first week back at work catching up with the things that didnt get doet whilst i wasnt up to much.
Anyway last week i had just about caught up so i did a bit on the xbr, here is what i managed to get done
Both side rear sets were roughly cut out of plate ally & fitted with the carbon heel guards,
& i got the first coat of lacquer on the tank & seat unit, just need to flat it back & do the artwork silver base coat & the same fools gold as the frame,down the center of both, possibly on wed or thurs this week - then lots more lacquer over the lot
THIS PROJECT HAS TAKEN TOO LONG & WILL BE FINISHED BY THE END OF THIS YEAR (honest :oops: )
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