KZ400 "Dirty Bird" Cafe (Winter mods)

Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Yesimivan said:
I hate Boise State.

On a more positive note, I like what you're doing with the bike. :)

Haha it is nearly impossible to avoid Boise State conflict on forums. So I will just not go down that road :)

And thanks!
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Ride height looks good. Couple things: You may consider shortening the length of your bars if you have extra space after putting controls and grips on. Also, are you thinking about recovering the seat? The pics made it look super lumpy.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

66replica said:
Ride height looks good. Couple things: You may consider shortening the length of your bars if you have extra space after putting controls and grips on. Also, are you thinking about recovering the seat? The pics made it look super lumpy.

If I have room I will shorten the bars. However the front brake cable is pretty jammed on the right. Not sure if I can slide it any further in.

Yes I will have the seat recovered. It is pretty ugly.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

treitz said:
Yes I will have the seat recovered. It is pretty ugly.

Haha. Just had to make sure it wasn't a case of the camera adding 10 lbs. :-D
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

66replica said:
Haha. Just had to make sure it wasn't a case of the camera adding 10 lbs. :-D

Lol no. It's actually probably worse in person than in the picture.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Alright I need some opinions. In looking at the tail section, unless I am missing something, like a reason for it, I am not sure why the guy that made it has the sides coming down the way they do.


I am wondering if it would follow the lines of the bike and tank better if they "tabs" were cut off? I attached a picture of it how it sits, and a picture of what it would (sort of) look like without them.



How it sits:
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Cut down:
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Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

I'm going to bet he was going for a flush mounted tail light which could be cool.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

66replica said:
I'm going to bet he was going for a flush mounted tail light which could be cool.

Ya maybe. There is a tail light under there, but it's set back about 1 inch so you can't even see it from behind the bike. Really weird. I was going to try to bring it out so that it would be flush.

I will flip it over and take some pics so you can see what I mean.

It is shaped right to be flush, it just might be a little too big so he had to set it back.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Was going to put the engine in the frame tonight when I started running into the issues that I was afraid I would run into considering I didn't take the bike apart. The mounting bolts were all wrong. Weird sizes, weird lengths, etc.

Guess I will be making a trip to the hardware store tomorrow.

On a side note I have a question concerning the cables the previous owner chopped off.

One of the cut cables was the starter cable. Found both ends, no worries there.

The other bundle had the oil pressure and neutral switch indicatore wires in it, found both ends, no big deal.

However, within that bundle there were also two identical yellow wires that I believe go from the "AC Generator" to the "regulator". Does it matter which one is which? Since they are identical I am not sure how I am suppose to know which one is which.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

StopBreakingDown said:
hey man you can look at mine saturday if you're still unsure by then, most of my bike is still together.
Cool thanks man. Hoping to get a good idea of what I need to do at Boise Vintage tomorrow. And maybe even pull some brackets and bolts off one of the bikes.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

ALRIGHT so I finally feel like I am getting somewhere. Got the engine mounted in the frame, picked up some rear pegs and new dust guards at the junk yard.

Couple pics of my buddies XS650 that he just finished. He rode it over in 18 degree weather. Now that's dedication.

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Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Swapmeet Louie said:
Cool treitz... Looks like a great score!

Ethanol: Because Boise is a mass producer of Walmartians... A breed of individual lacking all ability to make an intelligent nor fashion-able decision. The land where a Jugalo (ICP white trash) is considered to be a honorable occupation. haha

Dude, that is the truth! Lived there for 3 years and started to notice I was losing my grip on modernity (Idaho is like a time warp into the past). There are some really good people up there, though.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Question for those who have wrapped their pipes:

I am considering wrapping my pipes from the engine back to the muffler. DCC sells it by the foot. Does anyone know approximately how many feet I would need for each pipe?
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

treitz said:
Question for those who have wrapped their pipes:

I am considering wrapping my pipes from the engine back to the muffler. DCC sells it by the foot. Does anyone know approximately how many feet I would need for each pipe?

Don't wrap, high heat paint black!

You know how I like the blacked out look...
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

66replica said:
Don't wrap, high heat paint black!

You know how I like the blacked out look...

Ya I guess that would work. And be much cheaper:)
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

Got big plans for tonight... Will post pics later.

Hoping to get the wiring at least started, if not finished.
Get some oil in the engine so we can see if the electric starter at least works and the engine turns over and all that good stuff.
Maybe a final mock up with pipes on.
And whatever else we feel like doing!

On a side note, went to my grandfathers for some machining last night and snapped a pic of his lathe. It was his high school graduation present in 1954.
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Here is what he builds. Small scale steam locomotives. He has built about 6 of them, 3 steam and 3 electric. He has a track around his backyard that you can ride them on. Every part you see, except for the motorcycle pegs is hand made by him. Pretty amazing stuff.
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Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

go with exhaust wrap! Not only can you buy it in black, but it also insulates your exhaust heat which in turn means less hot air moving over your engine.

Roughly- for every foot of exhaust you need about 2 1/2 feet of wrap (2 inch wide)
Email dcc and see what they say also, it's been awhile since i wrapped my exhaust.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

RedRocket said:
go with exhaust wrap! Not only can you buy it in black, but it also insulates your exhaust heat which in turn means less hot air moving over your engine.

Roughly- for every foot of exhaust you need about 2 1/2 feet of wrap (2 inch wide)
Email dcc and see what they say also, it's been awhile since i wrapped my exhaust.

Thanks for the input. I cleaned my pipes up the other day and they actually look pretty nice.

Might see how I like them chrome first and wrap them sometime down the road if I feel like it.
 
Re: 79 KZ400 Cafe (Project #2)

http://kz400.com/ might be a helpful site, they have the service manuals available and a few people there know about making some power with the kz400/440.

Nice bike though, can't wait to see the bike ridable.
 
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