Ferous, could I suggest a wheel/rim size change like RYCA do? It might really change the attitude of the bike. Maybe just a 18'' rear would do the trick.
Is that the stock tank btw?
Is that the stock tank btw?
JadusMotorcycleParts said:Ferous, could I suggest a wheel/rim size change like RYCA do? It might really change the attitude of the bike. Maybe just a 18'' rear would do the trick.
JadusMotorcycleParts said:Is that the stock tank btw?
JadusMotorcycleParts said:Yeah good call with the tank. it definitely works in the renderings anyway.
I think if you can do the 17'' rear rim conversion that would do a lot for the visual weight of the rear of the whole bike. Plus, like you say, tyre selection for 17'' rims is massive and you also say you can fit a wider tyre there? Hadn't thought of that (with the swingarm restriction) but that's a really good point. I am sure you've got it covered but if you need any info on measuring/calculation and ordering a spoke set to match a different rim, shoot me a pm
I am sure you have many tyres in mind, but a personal favourite (available in 17'') of mine is the heidenau k66's. They are a very modern tyre but still have a pretty nice chunky tread - more road oriented but still look cool.
That bike is sweet! You say it has a 5 degree rake job? To me it just looks like it has the rica treatment; 50mm lowered fork, 12.5" shocks (maybe even 13.5"?) and 18" wheels front and rear. Maybe it's just the angle of the photo, but see how the fork and rear frame rail are almost parallel, that looks to me like the stock neck angle.redwillissuperman said:Like this:
FerousBastard said:Might need your help on calculating a spoke set actually. Scored a BMW F650 rear wheel of eBay for €20 in good condition, but had more or less given up on the thought as several wheel companies said they wouldn't touch the BMW rim because of it's weird lacing pattern. But I think if we put our minds together we might work this on out
JadusMotorcycleParts said:Any particular reason you went with the BMW rim? I have seen those spoke patterns on their adventure bikes and it is pretty whack. It must be practical for servicing and replacing the spokes but its quite unconventional. Could you not calculate the new required spoke dimensions, then order a custom drilled alluminium rim from Central Wheel in the UK? You just give them your hub dimensions, spoke count and offsets and they do the rest. I have used them several times this way before and been really happy with the results.
Btw, is that four rocker arms i see? Does the Savage have a 4-valve head? Motor looks real nice man. You got a gem
FerousBastard said:Does anyone know how to clean of that carbon so I can use this honking piston as a candy bowl?
jpmobius said:cleaning in process. Pistons/rods are out of the same engine. Right bowl has "Purple Power" (or something like that) purple cleaner from the auto parts store in it. Looking a bit contaminated after the previous 3 assemblies! Yes, it really does come out like the piston/rod on the left.
FerousBastard said:Thanks man! And yes good eye, the LS650 motor does have 4 valves. Which is one of the things that tells me that this motor was originally designed to put out more horsepower than it does now. Down the line the model was restricted to meet hp requirements for first time riders, which was ultimately a smart move to guarantee the models survival.
The LS650's bigger brothers; the Suzuki DR650 and DR750/800 both(all three) put out about 0.0715hp per cc, 46hp and 52hp respectively for their 644cc and 727/779cc engines, albeit with higher compression and hotter cams than the LS. Upping the LS650's compression from its stock 8.5:1 to the DR's 9.5:1 and matching their hotter cams, removing any restrictions, should put the LS's engine in that same territory of around 46hp at the crank. Which would be a huge improvement over it's stock 31hp.
Lancer, a member over at the Suzuki Savage forums, has good experience with boring out the LS's barrel to accept a 10.5-11:1 compression Wiseco DR650 piston and fitting a performance cam. One of his bikes has been dynoed at 42hp at the rear wheel with about the same modifications as I have planned, this should be good. ;D
jpmobius said:cleaning in process. Pistons/rods are out of the same engine. Right bowl has "Purple Power" (or something like that) purple cleaner from the auto parts store in it. Looking a bit contaminated after the previous 3 assemblies! Yes, it really does come out like the piston/rod on the left.
JadusMotorcycleParts said:Sounds like a rad plan. Shit, 42hp at the rear wheel is pretty handy on a bike that will probably weigh less than 130kg. I would assume it would have a pretty decent torque curve too being a thumper.
So the LS650 being a 4 vlaver is a much more modern rig than I thought. I also wondered the same as you about the difference in power from the DR series to the LS series... Compression and camming explains it. Valve size too? Carb even?