Moving the ignition key...Where are you guys putting them?

[Dyrden]

There's a couple of alternatives:


http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-CH-4-Relay-433M-RF-Wireless-Remote-Control-Controller-Switch-DC-12V-Auto-Latch-/140855481951?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3466313908338880145%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D251007173990%26

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wireless-12V-12-Volt-Remote-Switch-2-CHANNEL-Bikes-Cars-ON-OFF-POWER-RELAY-LATCH-/390367937119?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ae3be025f

Its amazing how inexpensive this stuff is! And I thought about a remote, but I like the 'self' powered idea of the key fob. They have nice little leather key chains you can put them in and it has a bit more of a wow factor instead of pushing a button on a remote. But, with all those channels you can no doubt do some cool stuff.

 

[neevo]

Dyrden that's good to know as then I can use the RFID and ignition switch combined to feed into that relay you posted.

Could even have a delay on the "off", so that if you switch the bike off, you could always turn it back on in 20 seconds without using the key fob again.

For only $9 odd too it doesn't matter if I fry the thing trying

Got any pics of the button in the stem nut? Also would you care to share your wiring diagram?

 

[Dyrden]

My wiring diagram was in the trash a month ago, and wouldnt work for anyone but me since I was figuring it out as I drew it, it looked like a hot mess on paper when I had it all sorted.

Sorry for the poor quality photo. The switch in the top of the headlight housing is the same style but has a blue halo. This is my hi/lo switch along with the blue halo as my high beam indicator. The same exact style switch is in my stem nut but has a green halo. You can just see the dark ring around the headlight switch. This turns bright blue when the highbeams are on. The start switch is hard to see since its stainless on a chrome nut, but that was the idea.

I should mention the headlight switch is a latching style and the start switch a momentary for obvious reasons. They look like the same switch but are built differently. If you type in stainless switch 12v on ebay you should find them. Mine are the 16mm sizes.


Untitled by bailey_james62@ymail.com, on Flickr

 

[neevo]

Are they the bulgin switches?

How do you tell the difference in the names between momentary active and ones that are hold on.

I think we are both on a very similar track. Do you find the swtches too bright at night? I hear they are pretty illuminating.

 

[Dyrden]

Are they the bulgin switches?

How do you tell the difference in the names between momentary active and ones that are hold on.

I think we are both on a very similar track. Do you find the swtches too bright at night? I hear they are pretty illuminating.

Youll see it in the description. Some are momentary Normally Open or Normally Closed and some are latching. You have to read the fine print on some of them. And Im rarely in neutral and rarely use my high beam so no issues there. Id say they are bright but not annoyingly so at night. And in direct sunlight I have trouble seeing the neutral halo.

 

[Dyrden]

And yes, bulgin are the type of switch.

 

[neevo]

MP0045/1E2

Latching stainless switch. Turns out the site I was looking at doesn't stock this one.

Need to work put all the connectors on the back! Not quite as simple as 2.

 

[Dyrden]

MP0045/1E2

Latching stainless switch. Turns out the site I was looking at doesn't stock this one.

Need to work put all the connectors on the back! Not quite as simple as 2.

Neevo, just looked at your build. Ive seen the title a few times and laughed but never actually checked it out. Sick work, especially on the tank. Shes gonna be fun to ride. And I soldered a little harness to the back of those switches so I could easily connect them as necessary, especially the start/neutral light switch since it all runs down the steer tube.

 

[neevo]

Neevo, just looked at your build. Ive seen the title a few times and laughed but never actually checked it out. Sick work, especially on the tank. Shes gonna be fun to ride. And I soldered a little harness to the back of those switches so I could easily connect them as necessary, especially the start/neutral light switch since it all runs down the steer tube.

Cheers mate!

I think this keyless/illuminated switch style will suit the modern aesthetics of my build perfectly so I'm keen to have a super slick execution.

When you say a harness do you mean a connector block of sorts so that you can disconnect it easily? I notice these switches are solder connections and thought they would take a special blade connector. Maybe I'm wrong.

Also are you running a resistor on the led inputs?

 

[Dyrden]

Cheers mate!

I think this keyless/illuminated switch style will suit the modern aesthetics of my build perfectly so I'm keen to have a super slick execution.

When you say a harness do you mean a connector block of sorts so that you can disconnect it easily? I notice these switches are solder connections and thought they would take a special blade connector. Maybe I'm wrong.

Also are you running a resistor on the led inputs?

No resistors on the LED inputs. I just took some 18 gauge and soldered them straight to the tabs behind the switch. Covered them in single shrink wrap and then as a bunch. I then put bullet style connectors at the end so I could plug them into the main harness. It came out pretty tidy and strong with ample clearance to thread the bullet connectors down the steer tube along with the wrapped wires.

 

[neevo]

Sounds tidy. I thought a 12v application might not need a resistor.

 

[neevo]

You need:

1 DEI 611T Solid state relay, like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DEI-611T-12-VOLT-ACTIVE-LATCHING-SWITCH-RELAY-TIMER-/140333447156

1 RFID reader, like this one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RFID-Reader-transponder-key-fob-security-/251007173990?pt=US_Car_Keys_Transponders&hash=item3a71318566


Once you have those and have a basic understanding of wiring, you can use it for your ignition. I use mine to latch a HD 40amp relay that I have connected to a power distribution/fuse block.

The antenna for mine is inside my cafe tail. I swipe the keyfob outside of the tail and it energizes my ignition(key on).

Dryden, I got this exact setup from Santa this Christmas. Relay is easy as it came with instructions, the RFID less so as it didn't.

Any idea if there are some available?

I have no idea which wires are which and how the hell that ceramic programming disc works. Cheers.

 

[Dyrden]

Dryden, I got this exact setup from Santa this Christmas. Relay is easy as it came with instructions, the RFID less so as it didn't.

Any idea if there are some available?

I have no idea which wires are which and how the hell that ceramic programming disc works. Cheers.

Hmmm... I dont remember if mine came with a wiring diagram or not. How many wires does it have along with the colors and maybe it will ring a bell and I can tell you how to hook them up.

 

[neevo]

Hmmm... I dont remember if mine came with a wiring diagram or not. How many wires does it have along with the colors and maybe it will ring a bell and I can tell you how to hook them up.

Actually I found a wiring diagram on the eBay listing. Still no idea how that ceramic programming disc works though.

 

[Dyrden]

If I remember right, if you move the programming disc within range it will then allow you to program additional keyfobs(up to like 25 or so, not that youd need it). I dont remember the exact procedure. Last time I bought the RFID kits I bought 4 at once so I had eight keys, 4 programming discs and 4 units.

 

[neevo]

It works! I've since switched the 2nd dipstick up to the off position so the relay is set to open circuit:

 

[Dyrden]

It works! I've since switched the 2nd dipstick up to the off position so the relay is set to open circuit:

Congrats! Not so bad is it. I would suggest running some silicon sealant around the openings for the wires in the RFID to keep rain from splashing in. Mines be working great. Im not sure how robust the internals are, but so far so good.

 

[M.B Co]

I'm in the process of adding a toggle and push button for my ign. setup.

Ignition Off/On will be hidden under the seat

Illuminated LED Push Button may go into my upper triple or on the side/front of the bike...not sure yet

 

[neevo]

I'm using an LED switch on the triples too:

However it will be wired in to act as a trigger for the relay in addition to the RFID so you can switch the ignition off from the handlebars as opposed to having to swipe the tag again.

 

[RoadRash]

I'd like to have one of these RFID senders placed in a ring. That way you have it with you at all times and merely swipe your hand over the antenna, so you look like Obi Wan. Hehe.