My KZ440 / KZ400 Cafe Project(s) – Turbocharged 440, Daily 400

mcge8241

Living the dream.
Hi everyone! My name is Alex. I live in Auburn Hills, MI.

I hope to make this a legit project log for my bike(s). I have a strong automotive background, and have owned a few dirt bikes and motorcycles over the years, but have never really worked on one or modified one substantially. My last bike was an 04’ Buell XB9S. I loved the minimalistic engineering used on the bike, the simple color scheme, and the overall appearance. However, I am TOO big for that bike! I’m 6’3” and about 220lbs. I looked ridiculous on it! Sold it when I got engaged last year.

I’ve since been working on random car related projects for myself and my friends, but have been keeping my eyes open on craigslist and other places for a good deal on a project bike to make a café racer out of. I’m into deal-searching and not spending more money than I have to. It’s not “cheap”, it’s “frugal” haha. Well, I stumbled on one a few weeks ago, and the seller ended up lowering his price substantially from where it started. I picked the bike(s) up last night.

They are both KZ400, one is a 74’ and one is a 76. Both have clean titles, and I got all the parts for $300. There is really only enough stuff here to build a single bike…only one engine and trans. I am missing a few random pieces and will need to pick up some other stuff, but overall I felt like I got a pretty good deal.
The engine/trans and most of the gauges and stuff come off the 76, which has only ~13k miles on it. Engine turns over easy with the kick start, but I want to check compression and probably go through the whole thing this winter. The frame on one of them is completely unmolested…just dirty. The other had been cut (see pics below). The seller had apparently bought these to use for parts for his own KZ400, and decided to try and make a chopper out of what was left. He has a sportster tank and some “ape hanger” handle bars. I’m not as big a fan of that style, and wish to concentrate on a café bike.
I have yet to decide which frame to actually use…I’ve been scouring the internet and the build logs on this site for ideas, and have seen that a lot of people mod the rear anyways to make a custom seat fit. We’ll get there eventually.

My overall goal with this bike is to build something for ME. This bike is not going to have to be sold to someone who is shorter, taller, skinnier, fatter, etc. I want it set up for me to ride, and for me to enjoy. That being said, I appreciate any tips, tricks, advice, etc that I can get!

There are only a few things I specifically want to get out of the bike. Here they are broken down as I can think of them.

Minimilasm
This is the biggest and most important thing to me. I really don’t want anything on there that I don’t need/want based on my overall goal for the bike. That being said, I do plan to keep a few things that are not necessary. This engine has a starter in it. It seems like a pretty easy thing to bypass, but part of me wants to have the electric starter. This stems from my old dirt-bikes, which were a PITA to start. Carbed engines piss me off…EFI is so much easier for start-up and drivability. However, I have heard that this engine is actually VERY easy to kick-start…so I’m a bit on the fence about this one. As far as the rest of it goes, I’d like to lose the turn signals most likely (don’t need them in Michigan), either lower the gauges or find smaller ones that will work (anyone know of any??), lose the side panels / brackets, lose the rear fender, etc. I’m also considering hiding all the wiring in the frame…

Overall Naked / Café Appearance
This means grinding down mounting points and brackets that I don’t need, removing unnecessary trim and modifying other components to make them smaller. I am planning on a custom seat, most likely I’ll make it myself. I’m also thinking about a clubman handlebar or some clip-ons. They seem pretty cheap on eBay, shipped from China. Anyone have any experience with these? I’d also like to modify the front fender and make it a lot smaller. I want to lower the headlight a lot too, it looks like it will sit too high up.

Electronics
The wires on the bike all appear to be in great shape, actually. If not a bit large…why is such a heavy gauge necessary!? I may end up re-doing the entire wiring harness to simplify it. I plan to get a small battery and hide it in the seat, and am considering hiding all of the wires that I can in the frame.

Stance / Handling / Tires
The bike does not appear to sit too high as-is. I’ve seen some of these older bikes that have a very high ride height. With a custom seat, I don’t see myself modifying the suspension that much. I am in need of a set of rear shocks, however…didn’t come with any. I’ve seen at least two people with older Kawasaki bikes on here use the eBay shocks on their bike…the ones that say RFY on them? Anyone have any input as to which length I need to get or how they perform? As for tires, I plan on getting some new ones…these are old and I’d like something a bit sportier looking. Anybody know a good place to get tires online? Also, plan to use the stock brakes unless someone knows of a nice modification that can be done using parts from a different (Newer) bike, or something.

Color Scheme
I have no idea what I am going to do, if I am honest. I like a lot of the stuff people come up with, but I’ve really been drawn to more muted colors…none of the shouty reds, yellows, green, bright blue, etc. I’m comsidering mixing at least two colors into the general bike theme…flat black and either a dark blue, dark gold-ish color, or olive drab green. I have not decided if I am going to polish aluminum on the bike or paint it flat black…or some combination of the two.
Engine Performance
This bike does not need to be an absolute rocket. I want it to be quick, loud(ish), and drivable. I have not found a lot of information about a big-bore kit for this bike, but I don’t expect that a few extra ccs are going to do me much good anyways, and I don’t feel like tearing into a non-leaky, perfectly running engine. Soo….

How about a turbocharger? I have a LOT of experience with turbos, and actually have one lying around that would be well suited for this application. It’s a Garret GT12, which based on the specs for this engine that I found online, would come on at full boost (calculated at 10psi) around 5500 rpm and would run efficiently all the way to 9000. I’ve never done a turbocharged engine with a carburetor though, so this would be new territory for me.

I know there are two basic ways to turbocharge a carbed engine…draw-thru or blow-thru. Draw thru is the easiest, because you can simply pull the fuel mixture into the turbo and then force it into the engine. Much easier to tune a setup like this, as the carb never becomes pressurized…always sees vac. A blow thru is the opposite, where the turbo has an air filter on it, compresses air, and then forces it through the carbs. Biggest issue here is that a carb does not understand manifold pressure, it only understands flow. So, a system like this is more difficult to tune.

Both systems have advantages and disadvantages. I’d love to do an EFI conversion with Megasquirt and just call it a day, but I think I can route a draw-thru turbo easily, using only one carb, and still keep the bike looking clean. Not to mention that a turbo spooling up and down without a muffler would sound AMAZING. But this would be a project for further down the road.

A turbocharger on a cafe racer? Hence the project name; Sacrilegious.

For now, here are some pictures. Please enjoy, comment, and offer suggestions!

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-Alex
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Welcome! You're going to love that KZ400, I sure do love mine and I haven't even ridden it yet (other than in the garage yelling "vroom, vroom" when the wife and kids are not around). I can't wait to see what you do with it. There are several other KZ400 builds on this forum. I've been working on getting mine on the road this summer but I haven't started the "cafe" portion other than turn signal, tail light, rear fender, etc. mods. I haven't started my build thread yet but I probably ought to, but I did recently post some pics and some notes on the KZ400 forums (Kawasaki Twins Owners Forum):


http://www.armbell.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16198&mforum=kz400


Speaking of, make sure you check out that site and become a regular - lots of great information there specific to our bikes.


As for tires online, check out Motorcycle-Superstore - great prices, I got free shipping, good service and shipping should be as quick for you as it was for me as they'll be coming from Louisville, KY.
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Welcome! Anxious to see if you turbo charge this thing or not! I am enjoying riding my kz400. Great little bike.
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

welcome. sounds like you have the knowledge and skills and that you have/are thinking this out. i too am interested in the turbo charge.
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Im in lake orion about 10min from you. Working on a cb550 cafe build. Have to meet up sometime
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Thanks for the comments guys. I got bored with homework after the paper I was working on was corrupted.

Started re-assembling the bike with the modified frame. Put the wheels back on, handle bars from the other bike, and it just sort of progressed from there.


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It runs, and great! Got it idling at about 1500, nice and smooth. Just have the filters filled with gas, and the funnel has some in it...no tank on there. Loud as heck with the pipes cut like they are. It's moving forward!
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Farther then i am. Getting a battery tomorrow. Need an emulsion tube for one carb. Then i need to do the 3k mile tuneup and hopfully it fires.
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Did quite a lot of research on parts over the last day or so. I'm still hoping to run a GT12 turbo, but I might end up with something different that is easier to package cleanly...want it to look nice, after all.

Ive also been looking into new sprockets, as mine def. need to be replaced. Thinking about changing the gearing...has a 15 tooth primary and a 45 tooth gear on the wheel, thinking of either a 43 or even a 40...top speed needs to be at least 100 mph, right guys? Hah!

Lack of horsepower is a bigger concern...but the turbo should be able to help with that....will easily double the torque output. I'm curious about how strong the connecting rods, piston ring lands, and clutch are in this bike...probably not going to like the additional power very much!
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

I've been holding off on buying any parts because a kid up the road has one of these he was thinking about selling. I'm not exactly sure of the whole story, but it seemed to be an almost complete 75 KZ400. I was told he had only paid $100 for it a year or two ago and that he might be interested in parting with the whole project.

Well, I went over to look at it and it was sitting outside in the rain, uncovered, and it was obvious that the weather was starting to creep up on it. I asked some more questions, and it turns out he only paid $50 because it does not have a title...

Well, I offered him $100 because It would be nice for me to have a complete bike to look at, and rob parts off of. Well, he wants $400 and wont budge!!! Can you believe that???

So that idea isn't going to pan out. I'm going to start collecting parts from eBay and finish cleaning up the frame. I've made some decisions about a few things, but need to take some measurements before I can be sure.
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Just picked up a second engine...and a whole bunch of other parts too.

I was surfing craigslist looking for KZ stuff, and I found a 80' KZ440 engine for sale about 2 hours south of where I live, with 13k on it. I sent the guy a message and offered him $60 bucks for it, which he accepted.

Picked it up yesterday, looks excellent. When I got to his place he made me take everything else he had for the bike...for free. So I scored a seat, forks, two more wheels and tires, some rear shocks, another set of bars, another set of throttle and clutch controls and linkages, mirrors, headlight, tail light and turn signals, control arm, fenders...pretty much a whole bike sans the engine and frame.

The cool thing about the 440 engine is that it fits in my frame, has more power, and has a 6-speed gearbox that will get me to the ton without modifying gear ratios. Nice!

As of right now I think I am going to put one bike together with the 400 engine and 5-speed, modify it a little bit, and just get it on the road...so I have something to ride. Then focus on making the other frame really nice!

I hope to take some pics tonight showing the progress I've made and the parts I've collected.
 
Re: My KZ400 Cafe Build(s) – Sacrilegious

Getting more and more motivated to work on this bike. Have spent considerable time choosing which rearsets I should use, which handlebars I should use, etc.

Scored some 1" tubing from a friend for free, it was bent into a sort of U shape, so I took the grinder to it and made my rear hoop. Not bad for a harbor freight welder and angle grinder to do all this fab work... Just took some rough measurements, mocked the two halves up, tacked/bent them to the right angle and width, and then welded it up and ground the welds down.

Pics:
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Re: My KZ440 / KZ400 Cafe Project(s) – Daily "Beater" v. Modern Improvements

I have decided to change directions on my project(s) and probably won't be doing the turbocharger on the bike unless I decide to convert to EFI.


I am having trouble justifying the additional weight of all the components that would be needed. In short, I would love to use the 440 with a single draw-thru carb, but the more I look into it shows that tuning it would be difficult at best...cold start running rich, transition to boost, etc, require extensive carb tuning and research, and I know a LOT more about EFI.

It's not off the table just yet. I'd still love to put the turbo on the 440...just would need an in-tank fuel pump, more electronics, a throttle body with fuel injector(s), air intake temp sensor, engine oil temp sensor, O2 sensor, throttle position, idle air control, etc. These, with a low-cost megasquirt EFI setup would allow for easy starts any time of the year and VERY simple tuning. Way more complex tho, so here is the short-term plan at least.

The modded 76' frame with the short hoop will be getting:
- The 440 engine with 6-speed gearbox, custom seat, digital gauges, new tires, new sprockets, new chain, no turn signals, custom rearsets, 33mm clip ons, limited hand controls, all new wiring, legit paint, low-weight battery, modern fuse box, adjustable rear shocks, polished engine covers/controls/etc, and good paint.

The virgin 74' frame will ger:
- The 400 engine with 5-speed gearbox, a nice seat from a KZ440, lowered stock gauges, lowered headlight, clubman bars, older tires/chain/sprockets, spraybombed paint, and minimal wiring/weight modification.

I've done some more work to the 74' to get the newer KZ440 seat to fit, turned out great and the seat lock even works. I'll take some pics when I get home.
 
Re: My KZ440 / KZ400 Cafe Project(s) – Daily "Beater" v. Modern Improvements

Took some pics and did some more work today. First off is the 74', here are some pics of the modified seat hinges and headlight/gauges that I lowered. Might try to change the angle of the gauges even more to get them closer to the headlight. Might cut/weld the bracket. Not sure yet...
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Then we have the tail light for this bike. I really dislike the stalks that come on the bike; they stick WAY out to the sides and really detract from the cafe look. I chose the tail light from the 74' because it is the widest of the three I have. The other two are smaller, and I decided that this one fits the back of the seat better. I modified the fender/licenseplate/taillight bracket. Cut, reinforced, and bent some tabs around to make the light sit at the correct height.

Well, I got what I wanted out of that so I decided to look around on eBay for some kind of sealed, small sized turn signal housings/bulbs. Didn't find much, but then I remembered that I had some single LED running lights that a friend I went to college with worked on for his thesis. I found them in a box in my basement and decided that 4 would be perfect for what I wanted. They were broken a bit, so I trimmed them. Soldered them up, hogged out 4 holes in the turn signal housing, and glued them in place. Looks pretty good, if I do say so!


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Re: My KZ440 / KZ400 Cafe Project(s) – Daily "Beater" v. Modern Improvements

I’ve been working a lot on the bikes over the past few days. I am almost done with the 74’ and am picking up some parts from my painter this afternoon. Here’s the latest on the bikes:

For the 74’:

I sanded and bondo-ed the tank. Lots of dents in this one and I got it as close to perfect as I could. I also prepped a headlight bucket and a front fender. I cut the fender shorter on both ends, and welded it back together. I am going to lower it a bit too if I can. All this stuff was dropped off at my painter’s place on Monday and I am picking them up today. He offered to paint the stuff for free in exchange for some bike parts I have laying around; the Sportster tank and ape hangers that I was never going to use anyway. Hes a great guy. I still don’t know what color he went with, because I just told him to do whatever he had in his gun at the time (that wouldn’t look horrid with my less-than-professional prep work). I’m very inexperienced with body work, but I hope this comes out looking nice. Pics of this stuff will be uploaded tonight.

I also lowered the gauges even more. I had originally flipped the headlight ears, and rotated the headlight bucket 180 degrees, which makes the bump on the back of the bucker fit better, and lowers the headlight a lot. The gauges still looked too high, proportionally, after I did this, so I lowered them even more. I think it turned out great. I also got the clubman bars and new grips on there, and LOVE how those look. Tip of the hat to MilleniumFalcon for the polishing suggestion. I still need to go over them some more, but they look nice so far. Finally, I hacked up the battery box and re-located it to the rear of the seat. It fits and it’s hidden…excited to see how all the wiring plays out because I want to hide as much of it as I can on both bikes. Pics:

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For the 76’:
I spent some time sanding this tank down a bit too. It was in much better condition and didn’t need much bondo at all. I just got it close and primer-ed it. I want to take the seat pan, headlight, and fender off for paint all at the same time…so primer is good enough for now.

I have a pretty good idea of the theme for this bike. Working on the details slowly, and buying parts when I find what I want. More on this later, don’t want to give anything away until I can verify that what I want to do will work…specifically concerning the gauges…it makes the whole bike!

Anyways. Got some parts in. First up is the new rear shocks that I got on eBay; they are KYBs. Another tip of the hat to MilleniumFalcon for these. They are 320mm, and they fit/look great. Can not wait to see how they handle! I may have to re-paint/anodize/powedercoat some of the parts depending on my color scheme, but I wanted a black spring so this is what I got. I think they were only $85 shipped, and they arrived in about 4 days.

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These are the rearsets I got from China. Overall I am very happy with them. I paid $100 shipped, and they even got here in about a week. Big problem when they arrived, tho. The actual foot controls had a lot of lateral and axial play. They are a simple design, so I disassembled them and discovered that the play was due to a shitty bearing used…that was crushed. It looks like tin, and they were all sorts of messed up…got crushed during assembly? Well, I measured them and ordered replacements from McmasterCarr, and requested a partial refund from the seller to compensate…which they quickly granted. I left positive feedback, and I am very happy overall with them. I welded up some tabs to the frame and have pretty much finished the brake side. Need to order some parts for the shifter side, and I may even change the brake design too. Some pics:


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Finally, I have started working on the seat pan/bump. I ordered some stuff to help with the fabrication of this (which has not arrived yet), but I essentially want a simple setup, made of steel, that hides the battery and electronics well. I am debating the hinge designs that I could use, and am also considering a lock…trying to sort all this out because I don’t really want an ignition key either (more on that later). Im sure I will get it figured out.


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Just to let you know,first and top gears in the 400/5 and 440/6 are almost identical.
All the ratios are close between the two,just 6 gears packed into the same "area" as 5, with third on the 440/6 moved a little more than second and fourth even more so and fifth is just slightly lower than sixth.

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Thanks for the tip on the ratios, Nebr_Rex. I'm going to gear it down a lot, and will have to think carefully about which ratio I use.

I got the stuff for the 74' back from paint, and it looks great! I ordered some vinyl for the tank, which should be here soon. Got the engine in the frame and started hooking things up...also fabbing up the exhaust. cut/shaped/welded the two exhaust pipes and merged them to 1 under the engine. Might be able to ride her tomorrow...getting excited!

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And as for the 76', well it's no longer an "idea", it's now a full-on plan; I am going to be turbocharging the 440cc engine. Here's some pics of the Turbo I got. It's a Garrett GT12:

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The last pic shows a nice comparison of three that I have lying around. For reference, the one on the right is a Turbonetics 60-1 Hi-Fi, flows about 450 HP, and is going on my 350z this winter.

Here's some pics of the 76 as-is, only real new modification is the addition of the clip-ons that I got from China. Very pleased with them too! I have had good luck with the stuff on eBay from China...


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good score on the 440 motor, i've been looking for a 440 top end to switch with my 400, good luck with the project and I'm really interested in seeing how the turbo project turns out .
 
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