I've had the 1000 almost 9 years and nearly 80000km on it,and the 650 I've had for nearly 9 months and really lovin it,just as much fun as the 1000 especially through the twisties,the 650 has a sv1000 front end on it and the 1000 has a gsxr1000 front end and Elka rear shock and Ohlins stearing damper somthing the TL should have come out with as standard.