Newbie from T.O.: 1980 Honda CX500D

mindactivated

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Hello,

My name's Mike & I'm a newbie from Toronto (B-Town as well temporarily). Picked up my first motorbike, a 1980 Honda CX500D which is as old as me. It's in rough shape but this winter I'm hoping to tear it down, fix it, polish it, paint it, tweak it, change it, rip it off, and then put it all back together again. I'm almost a complete mechanic & motorcycle newbie, so this should be challenging.

Hoping to turn this into something beautiful...

1980 Honda CX500D (un-named)

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Welcome to the madness! The CX's are great to start with - there's a member here that actually has 2 (Staffy from Oz). Let us know if you have any questions!
 
Big Rich said:
Welcome to the madness! The CX's are great to start with - there's a member here that actually has 2 (Staffy from Oz). Let us know if you have any questions!

I have a million questions. I just don't know what they are... ;)

And yeah, I've seen a few of the CX's... Staffy's impresses me, so does lilBeast's. The work they put in is insane! I would love to put in that much effort, I just don't want to get discouraged and frustrated.

I've been lurking here, gtamotorcycle, and chopper charles, signed up to bike bandit, have the clymer & original manuals in PDF, and I'm in IT so I can research to my heart's content but still gotta wrap my head around the mechanics and electrical.

Just bought a motorcycle jack from Canadian Tire (hopefully it works on the CX), and come September I'm moving back to B Town from downtown, so I'll have a garage to work on it.

So here's an all encompassing question: to get into this type of modifying and rebuilding, what are the essential requirements and resources for rebuilding a cafe racer or similar styled bike? Any tips? Any specific tools or gear, methods of starting a build, ... hell, where to even start, where's the middle, where's the finish (probably isn't one)? Cheers for now! Seems like a great community.

- Mike
 
Ah yes young grasshopper - you see the forest, not the trees. :D

Take a look around at the builds on here - there are only a small handful of pro bike builders. The rest of us are guys working out of the garage / shed / apartments / etc. You really won't know what tools you'll need until you need them. You can only turn one bolt at a time, so that's the only bolt that's important, know what I mean?

When you disassemble a bike, keep all the bolts, washers, etc organized (labeled zip lock bags). Wrap each wire with a masking tape and label it what that wire does (horn +, left turn -, etc.). And most importantly, take lots of pictures and start a build thread! There are plenty of people on here willing to help.
 
No matter what bike, get a manual!!! First thing!!! Life will be so much nicer with the manual! Then clean the carbs and do all the maintaince required in that manual, never take anything for granted. A running bike is so much easier to fix that one that ain't running. Lot's of people know these bikes inside and out here on DOT. It's an adventure and will always take twice as much time and money as you think!

Terry
J'ville, Fl.
 
Terry: Yah, I have both manuals (original + all addenda, and Clymer), as my friend was pretty adamant about getting on top of that.

Big Rich: Thanks for the tip, nothing worse than a huge disorganized mess of metal of discouragement. I'll start a build thread in several weeks or months once I'm in the zone.

I'm quite a bit into photography and already have a flickr set started (with one pic, ha).
 
Thanks for the kind words champ. I fell in love with these old pieces of crap years back and now since i've been riding one, well i think i'll just hold onto em hey. Another forum worth checking out is the aussie one http://australiancx.asn.au/forum/ . There's one or two of us aussie cx'ers on here that are members of that forum also. They're a friendly bunch there and plenty of wisdom to boot. Thre is a link on that site somewhere to a resource that has a lot of pdf manuals, parts lists, etc that can be downloaded. The parts list is really helpful as you not only have the exploded diagram to refer to (saved my ass a few times) but you have a part number there to for brother honda to look up.
Welcome and get some more piccies up!
 
do love those cx's. i started my cx tear down a few weeks ago. still at that stage because the history of my motors is unknown so i'm looking for the best one and plan on rebuilding it. then i'll go from there. they are great bikes and have a different look to them. good luck on your build. i'm always interested to see what people do with a cx.


and staffy, y'all do have a nice site over there. i've dropped in a few times but never said hello. whenever i've dropped in i've wished that we had a cx site like the fz6 forum i'm on. the fz6 forum is completely international and we get ideas from around the world. seems the cx riders are pretty segregated. we have choppercharles over here, y'all have your site, and i think there's a british site as well. it'd be nice if we could get all the great minds together in one spot. don't see it happenin', but it'd be nice.
 
dean owens said:
seems the cx riders are pretty segregated. we have choppercharles over here, y'all have your site, and i think there's a british site as well. it'd be nice if we could get all the great minds together in one spot. don't see it happenin', but it'd be nice.

It is and it isn't. You'll find a lot of aussie folks over on chopper charles and vice versa. We have canadians, brits and folks from the usa on the aussie site and i can guarantee that everyone would welcome our international brothers and sisters with open arms. In fact they do. Sign up and say hello. We actually have a CX and GL rally early next year where some folks from New Zealand will be flying over and borrowing a bike. I'm sure if some US CX riders wanted to also things could be accommodated.
 
mindactivated said:
So here's an all encompassing question: to get into this type of modifying and rebuilding, what are the essential requirements and resources for rebuilding a cafe racer or similar styled bike?

Step 1: Don't let anybody tell you what it should look like or what you shouldn't change in the interest of "preserving" the bike. You're building a Japanese cafe bike 50 years too late. I think we've already established that historic merit is out the window.


Any tips? Any specific tools or gear, methods of starting a build, ... hell, where to even start, where's the middle, where's the finish (probably isn't one)? Cheers for now! Seems like a great community.

Don't be in a rush. There's a million ways this philosophy can be applied to motorcycles, but for simplicity, lets just say don't start work today if it means you won't be able to ride tomorrow.

+1 on maintenance. Your bike is old, things are slowly breaking. Start by running through your manual and checking things like the ignition system, timing, carbs, air filter elements, shaft oil, suspension/forks. And speaking now from personal experience, be safe. Don't assume the previous owner has put the same level of maintenance into the bike

All you should really need to get started is a decent socket set, spark plug sockets, a torque wrench, rubber mallet, get yourself lots of rags (Canadian tire sells bricks of like 20 for $10), a drain pan for oil, jerry cans. WD-40, brake cleaner, electronic contact cleaner and maybe some black silicone or gasket maker will round out the fluids you'll need.

I found one of the easiest ways to get started was by replacing and modernizing the parts that were worn. e.g. old wires giving you weak signal lights? Replace them with flushmount LEDs and learn something about wiring and electronics when you need to swap out the signal relay.

If you run into trouble, ASK. Don't be shy, and don't be embarrassed to ask anything. You've got a grossly talented bunch of people here more than willing to give you advice so you may not make the mistakes they have in the past.


Now the most important thing: You've just bought your first motorcycle. It has two wheels and goes fast. Fucking ride it! It's good you're not planning your work till winter. Get on that thing and get to know it. Find out what you like about it and what you want to change. Make it your own.

Come on out on thursday and check out some of the bikes up close. You can learn a ton just by checking how somebody mated their original hinges to a new seat pan or redid their lights. At the very least you can meet some friendly folks and get some ideas about what to do with your own bike.

Oh, and find yourself a bike buddy: Your first time cracking open your carbs or torquing down your cam covers can be scary if you have no experience and have never seen or done it before. It's always nice to have somebody that's done it once of twice standing around with a beer if only to reassure you every couple of minutes that you're not doing anything wrong.
 
locO leoN said:
Welcome to the site...
Like the guys have been saying, the CX500 is a great bike to turn into a cafe racer..
It looks so much like a Motoguzzi

You should check out the Paul Dutra cx500:
Dutra cx500 2.AVI
Dutra cx500 3.AVI

Yah that bike is jizztastically awesome! Actually before I bought the cx500 I didn't know anything about them and just figured "cheap price, looks gangster enough, not too fast, not too slow - perfect! And I can fix it up." Little did I know how much character it has and all the amazing projects that people have of them. I'd love to be able to get one up to these standards!

Steve F's is also another amazing one. (http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=10072.150)
 
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