Old men pointing at each other

[teazer]

Gentlemen, please stop reacting this way. few of us actually know each other and I'd like to believe that we wouldn't behave this way in real life.

Who started it is not really the point, so can we please stop name calling and let Rat Ranger get back to telling his story about his project. Is it the bestest or mostest or whatever? It doesn't matter much. It's an interesting project. And as a point of reference, I built my first cafe racer back in about 65 and none of my bikes have been high dollar collectables. Most started as projects or basket cases including my DB32GS, several triumphs, piles of Hondas and Yamahas including TZs. I have had the pleasure of working with Nobby Clark at Daytona when he was with Team Obsolete and I am just a beginner. I love to read about other people's projects and the solutions they come up with. As long as they are safe, I don't care if they are the fastest or best handling. I just like bikes and people who like to work on them.

So can we please let this drop and get back to reading about motorcycles?

 

[gben]

Calling people names, like hipsters, says everything about your intentions. You just came in to bully. The trash in your garage on top of that bike shows freezing temps is by far not the reason you don't ride. That bike hasn't been ridden in a long time.

The definition of hypocrite is one who participates in what they complain about. You and your peers do not like any critical discussion about yourself, your projects or "cafe racing", but the only thing you are able to do in response is exactly what you complain about, making ad-hominem attacks and making sets of rules as to what a cafe racer is or needs to be. You saying that someone needs to ride a motorcycle as often as you do is as hypocritical as it gets, and especially it is amazing that you can tell the condition of a motorcycle from hundreds or thousands of miles away from one photo, the usual nonsense response, and all you are apparently capable of.
I have been on British bikes since the early 1960s, my father's or mine, and I have ridden them hundreds of miles at 100mph, "the ton", and had a lot of fun going around every turn I could with them as fast as I could, all on public roads, scuffing up their exhausts etc.. I never considered myself a "cafe racer", I just enjoyed riding the bikes I grew up with as fast as I could, their history and knowing what makes them tick. If I nor my bikes are "cafe racers" then certainly no person who preaches safety and following the rules of the road is, and no bike put together for looks instead of performance is either. But looking at the actual history of the phrase "cafe racer", I and the bikes I have ridden, even though appearing very standard, are a lot closer to it than 99% of anyone on this forum, or anyone who has latched onto what is clearly a fashion trend, since the 1980s.

I don't care what members of this forum, or anyone for that matter think of myself or my bikes or history any more than a fruit-fly does. It is just fun for me to point out what I think about those participating in the fashionable and trendy with historical facts and watch them lose their minds. If you have a problem, go whine at history, because it is what you have a problem with, you have a problem with it because you have rewrote it into something to suit and feed your egos and shallow empty selves. Thank-you for confirming everything I have ever had to say about you. Bye bye......

 

[teazer]

Ignoring the fact that he's a self important twat, he missed the fact that Cafe Racers have always been a fashion trend. When I started back in the sixties, we wanted our bikes to look a certain way - in other words, we were following a fashion.

For history buffs, I might suggest Cafe Racers of the 1960s by Mick Walker or CAFE RACERS, rockers, rock 'n'Roll and the coffee-bar cult, by Mike Clay published in 1988 by Osprey.

But now back to our regular programming, welcome back the owner of this thread, Mr Rat Ranger. Take it away dude.

 

[Tim]

You guys want to wank each other to death, take it to another thread. I don't care if you want to argue till the end of time but it doesn't need to be in the middle of someone else's build thread.