Questions on GSX damper

gk45011

Coast to Coast
Hey all,
I have seen that many people have used the GSX damper on their build. When installing mine I am having a hard time getting it to clear lock to lock. I understand that I rarely if ever will need the full range of steering while actually riding. Has anyone been able to use this damper and achieve lock to lock? Do I just need to obtain a longer damper? Am I just being a perfectionist? Opinions and pics appreciated!

If I set it up for full range of motion to the left turn lock it binds short of the right lock and vice versa.

Thanks in advance for the input and help. This is the first aftermarket damper type install and I am not 100% sure what my finished installation goal is with range of motion.

Gary
 
Where have you got it mounted? Maybe it's not mounted in the same fashion as the original set-up.....meaning it's using more stroke on your bike than on the original (fork mounted v bottom triple mounted??)
 
I drilled and tapped a hole in my lower triple and mounted a stalk on the frame for mine. I've got the opposite scenario, it only uses about 50% of the travel.

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Thats an awsome setup Neevo. Mine is set up in a similar fashion but spaced out off the side of a dual downtube front end on the 450. Clamps to the fork with an aftermarket braket.

Looks as though your brace is mounted near the center of the lower triple which is probably also giving you some extra room dont have. If there a factory hole in the lower triple I might be able to use? How hard was the triple to drilll and tap out of curiosity? If were to move to a more center drilled hole the damper would never reach it due to my double downtube.

I figure if a few people post up their setups one of them has to jog an idea.

Gary
 
I would think that finding a way to center the damper on the frame or the triple is going to be your best bet.
How about some pictures?
 
I will see what I have for pictures tonight. Bike is across town in a friends garage and the pictures have are hosted through FB which my work is making a no no.

Work always interfering with my play time. Grrrrrrrrr


GK
 
neevo - is your damper body solid mounted to your frame or does it have a bushing so it can move?

If it's solid mounted the damper will destroy it's seals over time because the arm will move laterally whilst the body will stay still.
 
Alright in my utter frustration i took no picture of the damper actually on the bike. I thought I did but I'll be damned if i can find them. So for theoretical purposes here is the set up as well as a side shot of the intended bike. Bike is across town in a friends garage and he is in Mexico this week for work. Uggghh

Anyone have any suggestions on a longer damper that might reach and work better?

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Have you tried it with the fork clamp on the inside of the fork (so it's closer to the stem and the arc / travel is at it's least) ??
 
hillsy said:
neevo - is your damper body solid mounted to your frame or does it have a bushing so it can move?

If it's solid mounted the damper will destroy it's seals over time because the arm will move laterally whilst the body will stay still.

It's got a rotating collar on the body which gives it about 30 degrees of motion in all directions except left and right.
 
neevo said:
It's got a rotating collar on the body which gives it about 30 degrees of motion in all directions except left and right.

OK - cool.

Couldn't tell from the pic.

Carry on ;)
 
That might be the ticket right there Hillsy.

I have the damper spaced away from the frame and tank to the fork mount on the outside. I am wondering if i move the horn up under the tank (which I wanted to do anyway), if I might get enough range of motion with the damper running on the inside of the two frame rails with the forl clamp mount angled in.

I know I have seen others such as Ringos mounted to the outside and it appears to have ample reach. Am I having problems due to the L frame having a more relaxed steering head angle?

GK
 
The damper you are using (if it is a GSXR style one) is probably supposed to be mounted off the headstock in front of the forks. In your application it is seeing a lot more travel than it is designed for.

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If you side mount the damper, a stroke of 80mm would give you much more room to work with.
 
What frustrates me is that I see people who have used them and made them work. I'll give it one more go when I can get to the bike again and if i can't get it sorted i'll look at a new damper with a 80MM stroke. I don't know how much stroke the stock GSX damper has.

Gary

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That damper is mounted on the bottom triple MUCH CLOSER to the steering stem and has LESS TRAVEL than if it was mounted to the fork leg. Same with Neevo's set-up.

You just have to mount it so the travel on the damper is reduced - which means you might have to weld up a bracket or two. Or get yourself a longer steering damper.
 
I'm not a fan of side mounting those short top mount or center mount dampers. They also don't have any adjustments. A proper, side mount adjustable works and looks better. Here's my 80mm Shindy on my CB350.

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I picked up what looks like the same damper. I'm wondering the pros and cons versus the NOS NHK I've got on the shelf. Any insight DRJ?
 
gk45011 said:
DRJ Whre did you pick up the 80mm adjustable?? Got a link?

I bought mine at a swap meet but here's the site.

http://shindypro.com/catalog/each_q_ptype.key38.html

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Doesn't list an 80mm so I may have the 90mm. I've found that Shindy's are the least costly aluminum Japanese dampers. You can always go the cheap made in China route on ebay but quality won't be as good.

Killman77 said:
I picked up what looks like the same damper. I'm wondering the pros and cons versus the NOS NHK I've got on the shelf. Any insight DRJ?

The black steel body NHK universal damper (standard for the Kawi H2) is decent quality, less than half the cost, available only in one size and adjustable but the body mount is welded, not positionable like the Shindy so mounting is less versatile.

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