Maritime said:
Dohc you are correct on what you say there are some memebers here who are a bit harsh, they are not really long term, they came along when the place got big they have high post counts but that's cause the never shut up LOL. The core members who have been around since there was a few hundred are not who shit on people's builds. They will point out unsafe stuff but not in the douchebag wy some others do these days
A bit harsh, eh that's an understatement for a lot of these guys. When you see words like faggot to somehow describe a build, and the mods let that happen CONSTANTLY, it's going to rub off on others and light unneccessary fires. I admit that because of the way a particular mod has targeted me that I have been offensive and abrupt at times but it honestly is to bring some of these issues to the surface. I've been building bikes and engines a long time, I don't need some internet dick telling me I "fucked up" or i'm a faggot because of the way I built a bike. Noone does.
Let it happen, and it will happen. XB is a HUGE part of the problem from what I have seen so far. Another problem here is that peolle like JP, PJ, Sonrier, regardless of how nice they act all the time, have a real problem admitting mistakes, and the site panders to it. Sonreir has gone so far as to blatantly remove posts where he was proved wrong and double talked to try to correct it. That's some serious bullshit.
Now, if a certified professional bike tech that has built 60 custom bikes comes on to this site, you all should welcome him. Nope, you challenge everything he says, erase posts proving you wrong, and just generally give off a feeling of rejection towards anyone new with a brain that you have determined to threaten your status as impossibly wrong here.
Nothing is EVER the same as it once was. Ever. The members that are gone, are gone. If you want the site to be better, be better. If you want the ridiculous barrel of monkey shit that happens here to continue, then continue.
Matt, I challenge you to acknowledge and "rectify" your folly. If not, there's your problem right there.
I erased my entire Wicked X build from this site because of Matt's attitude. Why should I contribute TRULY one of a kind builds and adventures that create loads of site traffic here when 40% of my posts disappear? My "things that annoy us" thread was put up to draw this EXACT issue out, and lo and behold the second it turned that way it was locked by the Fuher himself. It's not my fault people don't understand sarcasm and irony. Sonreir will say they disappeared because I was being an asshole. Very convenient to say when you have removed the evidence.
Everything in me believes that this thread was started as a place for the old timers to come in and reminisce about how "before all these morons got here".
The thing is this site, as with any club, is being led by example. That example is being followed.