Shocwav3's CJ360

[shocwav3]

I have been hanging around a while, and I wanted to get a build thread put up to show my progress thus far on my current project. DTT is a cool site with a shit load of really cool people (kinda rare these days on forums), so I wanted to put my stuff out there to get some feedback and maybe help someone else if I can. (The truth is i am a complete noob and I need much more help than I can give)

The build is about a year and a half total, I tried to take as many photos along the way but inevitibly I am missing some stuff. The bike goes through essentially 2 builds since the first one was a super cheap, less understood attempt. The second is the one I am currently undertaking.

So without further adieu, pics tell a thousand words.

The day I got her home (200 doll hair purchase)

Tear down

Crazy first attempt at wiring

Mock up of some machined parts I made ( I ended up using them on a differnt project)

Seat mock up

More seat action

Starting to take shape, the first time

Finished seat...

Fork brace I made, happy to make another set for you 360 guys

This is where I said, F it. I am going all out, full teardown and rebuild.
Truth is I wasnt that happy with a lot of odds and ends so I needed to do it again otherwise it would eat at me until the end of time.
Next post will start phase II

 

[shocwav3]

Here we go
Start the tear down again

Cleaning up engine parts

Working the carbs added some 112 secondaries for a starting point

Repainted frame and started re-assym.

Cases looking much better

ANB swingarm bushings, really tightened up the rear end

Fresh hone after checking all my motor tolerences

Dirty leakdown test-held seafoam over night

More messing with the carbs

installing valves after a good grind and cleaning

Checking the top end for leaks

Mocked up rear sets I made

Sunk my gauges a bit

Progress

Bushings and new zerk fitting

More assym

Front end going back on

First mock up of pipes (which are in the process of being changed again after an overwhelming amount of negitive posts regarding tuning a 360 with straight pipes)

Gauge work

Started on wiring

Made a plug for the missing one in my carbs (thanks for the heads up PJ)

Got me eliminator in

More wiring

Some copper intake gaskets I made

Tail mock up

THats it for now. Next paint and some other stuff. Thanks for looking

 

[MeatTooth]

Awesome! very clean work I like it.

 

[shocwav3]

Some more updates to try and get the whole thread up to date
Prep and paint (I used a cheap gun and an even cheaper duplicolr paint)

right before I spilt paint everywhere

Honestly once I dialed in the gun it did not lay to bad

Finished set of gauges

And a fit up of the newly painted parts

 

[shocwav3]

Here I start what I hope will be the final incarnation of my exhaust.

Final shot of the bike after running the straight pipes with just some baffles I made.

I tried to utilize as much of the original pipe in this version of the exhaust, the single wall tubing I got from Columbia river is nice but gets SOOO much hotter than the stock triple wall stuff
I know it hangs a little low for what I wanted to do, but the picture is making it a 1,000 times worse.

Cope,Fit,Cope,Fit. Taking time to get the fit right makes welding so much easier

Got the rest of the pipe to hug the frame and added a mounting bracket that attaches to the rear sets

View from the rear. I am happy with the overall location of the muffler

All welded up and on the bike, I may make a heat shield for under the peg. It all depends on how hot it gets when I run her.

 

[shocwav3]

Now that the thread is current, Here is where I am at today.

Once I got all the exhaust finished up I started to get all my baselines for the motor again. Valves, timing, points, carbs.
I have already done this but the bike was acting up and I wanted to rule out all the obvious stuff before banging my head against the wall.
Once I got the tappets and point gap set I threw the iginition power on to attach a test light and get timing down. (first time I did it by eye)
Here I noticed that one of the points was not getting power. I reached over the bike and one of the coils is getting super warm. The bike is not running but ignition is on....
I already suspected bad coils causing some of my problems, (mainly the bike was getting harder to start as it got warmer) but this just confirmed my suspisions.
I did an ohm test and the one coil was way out of whack. Once I let her cool down it came back into range.

Long story short I have a set of 650 coils laying around that I needed to make an adapter for and toss on the bike
Back to pics

Original state

Cleaned

Polished with fitted adapter plates

Later, fit up on bike.

 

[shocwav3]

Got my coils mounted up and started running the bike. It ran for 10 minutes or so, I started working on the carbs when all of the sudden it quits. I start to troubleshoot when I notice there is no gap in either of my points. I reset the gap and run the bike agian, this time paying close attention to the points, she runs for a minute an then the left point stops gaping. I was not sure if the actual points were moving or if the spring mechanism is just loosing its spring? (not sure how to describe it) After I shut the bike down I observe the new issue.

The actual point looks like it is pulling through the housing. These are ebay points and I am sure the quality isnt the best but has anyone ever had this issue?
I will be ordering some points tommorow, probably through honda, unless there is a suggestion for a good aftermarket replacment

 

[shocwav3]

No pics but figure I would update progress. I got my honda replacment points, and man o man the construction is better. I fit them up and they are working perfectly, also got my carb syncs in. I will turn the adapters tomorrow and start tuning this sucker, I want to ride it for more than 5 minutes before the long winter comes

 

[Erskine]

Sweet.
I hope you get it together before the weather turns

 

[shocwav3]

Been tuning the bike the last few days, and unfortunately I have been spending most of my time in the 1800 help section. But I figure I will give a couple updates here to show progress is still being made.

Got my syncs set up and got the carbs synced properly.

Also fitted some new springs to the advance unit

Finally got the garage a little tidied up, it was starting to look crazy

 

[bananaclip]

Great progress so far! The pipe needs to be a bit more tight IMO.

 

[andoor]

Great Work!! I really dig all the little details.

 

[shocwav3]

Great progress so far! The pipe needs to be a bit more tight IMO.

Yup, I wish I had taken my time and done that part right, although the pics make it look like it hangs lower than it really does it still isnt right.

Andoor- Thanks!

 

[shocwav3]

Start up after some carb tuning.
http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i90/shocwav3/?action=view&current=IMG_1105.mp4

 

[shocwav3]

Still working out some bugs. After I take her on a ride or even let her idle too long in the garage (15 min), I hit the throttle and this freaking thing will hang up around 4-5k. Also around 3k its choppy and the carbs spit back at me. while its warming up and for a few minutes after I have good throttle response and the rpms return as they are suppose to but if she runs too long it starts to deteriorate. I know its running rich, and I am trying to remedy it, but I am running out of things to try. (Just a little rant)

 

[shocwav3]

Still plugging away. I am pretty frustrated with the tuning process, I may just breakdown and send my carbs to PJ to see if he can get them running right for me.
Picks for Clicks

 

[Erskine]

Loving the sparse look you achieved. I hope you can get the bugs out of the system.
PJ knows his 360's that's for sure.

 

[shocwav3]

Some updates.

First off, PJ is THE MAN. Got my carbs back and they brought this bike to life. I had some minor issues with it still sputtering out around 4500 rpms when I got them back on the bike but with MORE guidance from PJ he told me to start looking for a breakdown in my spark. I ordered a brand new condenser to match my 650 coils and I bit the bullet and pulled my eliminator and plugged my battery back up. Wouldn't you know she runs like a raped ape.
I guess I will be keeping the battery for the long haul.

I fabbed up a box tonight so I can take the bike on the road tommorow and see what she will do.

Anyway, video for clicks (I promise the top end is NOT as loud as the video makes it sound)

 

[pitboss]

looking good, and that first set of pipes you made were sick! keep us posted.

 

[shocwav3]

looking good, and that first set of pipes you made were sick! keep us posted.

Pitboss-
I liked my first ones also but I wanted the bike to run to the best of its ability. The general consensus was to use a longer more restricted set up than the short dump style I had. I used some leftovers to make the two in one on there now and eventually I will order all the material and make the set I really want to.

Speaking of the pipes, I painted them with some high temp which cleaned them up a bit. Also I welded in a battery box since I will be running one.
P4C