Sleek & Sexy CL360

SausageMahoney

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Hey all... I'm new around these parts. Been lurking for a while, but now that I'm starting in on my CL360, I figured I'd join up and start a build thread to keep you updated on the progress.

The culprit a 1975 Honda CL360 Scrambler. Not quite sleek & sexy yet! My wife got this for me for Christmas with some help from Valvesrpung, who I've been friends with since we were about 13 years old. This bike is going to get the works... she's being turned into a sexy little black cafe. This is how she sat when I got her home on Thursday:

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Clean title, no deep rust (just lots of road grime and dust), and she starts. Not too bad for less than $500 (My wife wouldn't tell me the exact price). I'm told it was a very good deal. Thursday & Friday:

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Between Friday and tonight, I've gotten er down to just the frame, engine, and some wiring:

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Also not too bad considering I'm extremely inexperienced with wrenching on much of anything, especially old bikes. However, starting into one of my first real projects, I have learned that I'm pretty OCD about my garage. Everything's being lined up, labeled with painters tape, and all nuts/bolts get labeled and separated into ziplock baggies. I'm also keeping lists of everything I plan to do to the bike, what items need purchased, and notes on anything else that may pop up. This was taken on Friday, and these have basically doubled since then:

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Anyway, while tearing into her, I noticed a few little things-- the tank isn't in the greatest shape. The prior owner put some weird coating on the inside, and there are little stalactites in there. There's also some a little dent in there. I plan to replace the tank anyways, so no biggie.

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Rear shocks aren't that great either, lots of nicks in the chrome and some rusting. But nothing a little polish & paint can't fix:

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BTW-- can anyone tell me how to get that top chrome part off (above, blurred)? Is it a necessity? I want to run these black, but leave the springs chrome... I thought it might look better with more spring showing on the shocks.

Another small issue is that the triple tree was busted when we got it:

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Also not a big deal. If anyone has a spare triple tree that will fit on a CL360 that they want to sell, please let me know. I plan to do clip-ons so those handlebar mounts aren't a necessity.

So that's how she sits. This week will just be lots of polishing and maybe some paint on the smaller parts. Now onto the future...

Being something of a wannabe nerd, I've named all of my pets using Anime names. I think I'll keep that tradition and name the bike "Vash The Stampede" cause it's Japanese and it's going to be loud as tits... unless anyone has any other suggestions. Maybe a girl's name would be more fitting? I plan to make this bike nice and dark, sleek and subdued... clean, classy and tasteful... but LOUD. Lots of black with some chrome accents.

So as of tonight, here is the master plan for this little 360:

-Powder the frame & wheels black
-Get the electric start working and standard servicing on the engine
-New tires
-New seat - I dig the BCR seats but goddamn they're spendy. I think I may just settle for a fiberglass seat and upholster it on my end.
-New tank - still haven't decided what kind to get
-Paint seat & tank - probably glossy black, maybe some metal flake, maybe charcoal grey with a black stripe, maybe flat black with a glossy black stripe, not sure yet...
-Black clip-ons, new brake & clutch levers, new grips
-Paint engine black, polish the sh*t out of the honda logo center cap (UBS Cover? I can't remember what it's called) and leave it nice and shiny for some contrast
-Wrap pipes (probably black), no muffler
-Mount the brake light in the hump of the cafe seat
-Mount the battery under the seat to hide it
-New turn signals
-Fork Boots - still undecided
-Bob the front fender, leave it chrome, no rear fender
-Replace those big box air filters with nice little K&Ns
-Paint my rear shocks, but leave the springs chrome so they sit chrome on black
-Rebuild my forks, replace seals, etc.
-New headlamp mount
-Shave some of the tabs off the frame that are no longer needed
-Give (almost) everything a nice fresh coat of black paint
-Put her back together, give the engine a final tune-up, put fresh gas in, and GO!

And the goal is to accomplish this before May-ish! So we'll see how much of that gets changed as I get into it and my wife starts limiting my budget! I'll be sure to update regularly with my progress.

Sorry to be long winded! Any comments, suggestions or tips are greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance, guys!

BTW-- if anyone needs any photoshopping I'm pretty good in PS (do it for a living) and I can mockup pretty much anything-- just PM, I'd be happy to help you out!
 
Shit! Almost forgot!

I have a bunch of parts off of this bike that I won't be using, but I don't know how much to sell them for. Plus, I'd rather give you guys a go at 'em before I start posting stuff on Criagslist or eBay. I don't see a sales section on the forum, am I missing it?

I've got:
-Stock Mirror
-Stock Turn Signals
-Stock Brake Light
-Pegs - Front & Rear
-Stock Air boxes
-Mufflers - one is decent, one is pretty nasty
-Stock Heat Shields!
-Headlamp mount
-Rear Fender
-Tank - Okay condition, small dent, weird coating inside
-Handlebar Mount Brackets

What do you guys think? How much does this stuff go for? Pictures:

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Wow, that's impressive.

I'm in the process of working on a small project for my CB360 and haven't even come close to what you've done. Great job and nice pictures.

Not too sure on what you should sell your extra parts for but you could go to www.bikebandit.com and check out how much OEM parts are new and gauge from there. Like a new heat shield/protector goes for about 60 bucks. Hope that helps.
 
HOOLIGAN said:
Wow, that's impressive.

I'm in the process of working on a small project for my CB360 and haven't even come close to what you've done. Great job and nice pictures.

Not too sure on what you should sell your extra parts for but you could go to www.bikebandit.com and check out how much OEM parts are new and gauge from there. Like a new heat shield/protector goes for about 60 bucks. Hope that helps.


Thanks, man. I was checking out your project post and it looks like your 360 had a lot more stuff to tear off than mine did. Looking forward to seeing how yours ends up!
 
Looks good so far. Nice photo collection too.
You may want to keep the butterflys closed on the carbs though. I placed a plastic bag with a rubberband on mine. Seemed to work ok. Just a suggestion to keep something from falling in there.

..."BTW-- can anyone tell me how to get that top chrome part off (above, blurred)? Is it a necessity? I want to run these black, but leave the springs chrome... I thought it might look better with more spring showing on the shocks."

The chrome cover is a matter of opinion. It's a toss up for me. I'm not too sure how to remove the chrome cover. My shocks didn't have them. But I used a bunch of ass to take my shocks apart. (I'm 5'9" 215# and my kid is 6'2" 215# lol) We placed them on the floor and I compresssed them with my hands. While I compressed, my kid used a screwdriver to pop out the keeper on the top. You'll want to put the shock in its lightest setting to make compressing a little easier. I wasn't too sure how much pressure was on the spring and made sure to keep it pointed away from our faces while we worked on them. Holpe this helps. Troy
 
Troybuilt explained exactly the way to remove the springs. I've done it quite a few times and it is a pain in the ass.

Also, I have the upper tree you're looking for. PM me if you're interested: $20 + shipping. I have a ton of CB360 parts, but it looks like you have a pretty complete set-up.

--Chris
 
Nice shots buddy ;D

I'm glad to see you tear into her so whole-heartedly. For $20 I'm sure he'll want to snag that triple tree chris.
 
Thanks guys. I may just leave that chrome cover on for now. Depends on how brave we're feeling!

chrisf-- I'll take it! I'll PM in a few to work it out. Thanks, man.
 
Well, got a little more done tonight. Since I haven't decided yet whether I'm going to drop the cash for painting or if I am going to rattle can it, I thought I'd try spraying the headlamp housing and make a final decision on the paint from there. Looks decent, besides a little orange peel effect. Looks more charcoal grey in the photos, but it's pretty black once it's out of the direct lights.

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Primer:
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Paint & clear coat:
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Started in on the chain guard:
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Looked under the front fender for the first time and found about 1/4" worth of grime:
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Started working into that with some degreaser, the hose and a steel brush. Still pretty nasty under there.

So I also used some engine degreaser on the engine to start cleaning that up a bit, but didn't do a very good job of rinsing. I just used a bottle of water and gently rinsed the engine to avoid getting any water into the carb intakes (which were taped up). I noticed that there is still some filmy residue on the engine from the degreaser. Will that hurt anything?

Also, check out this jacket I got on ebay for $41 last week. I'm really excited about this bad boy:
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buckets look good, try using several lighter coats to prevent the orange peel, looks great, man that jacket would not fit on 1 arm for me... sucks, i just gave a few vintage leather jackets away to a few of my buddies... need to get some patches myself! rock them on my jackets!
 
JRK5992-- haha! I'm pretty scrawny, 5'11" and 170lbs, so that jacket fits like a glove on me. I think I'm just slightly bigger than the guy I bought it from in that picture.

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Well, had some time today to get more done. Got a better shot of the headlamp bucket with the polished rim outside. I think I might try my hand at wet sanding to polish out that orange peel:
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Finished painting the chain guard:
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Made some progress on the underside of the front fender:
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Took off the harness, kick start, foot brake, main switch & horn, and those spark units up front (forget the name). Also worked more on cleaning up the engine, getting it ready for paint. Now we're really getting down to the bare bones:
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Gonna try and get that engine off soon, too (that means you, Jordan).

Today I called up some local powdercoat shops in town and after getting some quotes, I'm not sure if I'm going to drop the cash to powdercoat the frame yet. After the tires, seat, tank, new lights, clip ons, rear sets, powdering the wheels & some of the smaller parts, servicing the motor, paint, and all the other little costs that are gonna pop up... I'm already somewhere in the ballpark of spending $1200+. While I'm no slouch, I think I might just skip spending that $250, paint the frame myself and wait to powdercoat the frame until next winter.

Regardless, I'm having a blast, guys! Really having fun working on this bike. Making progress slowly.
 
Slowly, Ha! I wouldn't call this slow buddy. Nice wrok though and I'll try to get over and pull that motor this weekend.
 
You may want to think about painting the underside of the fender with Rustoleum black rust stopper. I did mine and the brackets and it looks good:
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Yeah, I'd call this a turbo build. Tackle as much as possible while you've got the fire under you.

Polishing the bucket should work, just make sure you have enough clear on it to smooth it without breaking through. It looked pretty rough with the primer, it wouldn't hurt to sand it between coats, don't go crazy with 2000 grit or something though keep it up around 600 at to maintain the tooth. Then you'll be less likely to break through, and prob wont have as much sanding to do.

I've got a post about painting my bucket on my blog that steps through some of the stages, but I'm pretty lucky to have some of the tools I've got.
 
definitely painting the underside of the front fender.

so i had a pretty unsuccessful night. the wet sand on the bucket didn't work so great. i don't think i had enough clear coat and i need something for buffing. borrowed my dad's dremel and started working on polishing up this cover on the engine. sure looks a lot better but i'm getting a lot of lines and grooves from the wire brush:

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i found that the wire brush polished the best, and i finally figured out that i need to work with the grain. however, it still leaves a lot of tiny grooves & lines. i also noticed that using super fine grain sandpaper (1500 & 2500) was working down the grooves, but dulling the finish. what do you guys suggest for polishing up that aluminum?
 
After you get it all clean with the wire, then sanded to remove the grooves, use the red and green polishing compound, you can get it in blocks or in paste from turtle wax etc. and the little cotton wheels you can buy for the dremel. it works great at bringing back the shine after sanding. Just watch the little screw on the mandrel, it can undo a lot of your work with one flase move ;D
 
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