Speedfreak and Cheapskate in SE Michigan

dcwp

Coast to Coast
Howdy!

I'm new to motorcycles within about a year and a half, but I've already rehabbed one bike and I'm starting my second. This time I think I'm going for a cafe racer setup. I've already gotten a lot of ideas from you all so I figured it was time to register and stop lurking.

A little background:
I've always been into tinkering and shiny things that go fast, but I'm chronically underemployed (grad student/teacher) so the funds are low. I used to be into mountain bikes and built a couple of fun rides out of parts that I found in people's garages or on e-bay but never anything with a motor. For a couple of years I talked about getting a motorcycle and the deal my wife made me was that she wouldn't complain about it *if* I could find a bike for under $200 and rebuild it so I knew it inside and out and could tell if something was going wrong. I think she thought that would keep me from ever actually doing it, little did she know... ;)

So a couple of years ago a friend of mine called me up and offered me a free bike. It was her parts bike, but hers was finally where she wanted it and she knew about my deal so I jumped on it. It's a 1980 Honda CM400t. Not a particularly muscular bike, but for my first one it's perfect.

Anyway, about 6 months after I got that bike and started working on it, my friend broke off a spark plug in her head, stripped the hole extracting it, and discovered that her tank was full of rust that had screwed up her carbs and cylinders. So she gave me that bike too as a parts bike. Sweeeeet!

Within a couple of months, I had the first bike clean and humming. I'll try to post a pic. I got my cycle endorsement and have been loving it for a little over a year now. It's perfect for tooling around town, riding with the wife, and generally having fun, but it's nothing to look at.

Now I've been tinkering with the other bike, formerly known as the Parts Dolphin due to it's long teardrop shape and blue color. New head and valve cover and cleaned jugs and pistons hopefully fixed the motor. I've been rebuilding the carbs this week, if I can get the needles to set fully and stop leaking gas I should be able to fire it up this week. Fingers crossed.

Now I realize that this is a suboptimal bike for a cafe conversion, but the price is right and I want to use it to get my skills up to date before investing any time or energy in a nicer bike. It's going to need a new tank and a few other bits anyway so I figure it's a perfect candidate for a cafe project. If I can do if for minimal cost, I'm sure I won't hear any complaints from my wife, but therein lies the challenge. If you don't mind, I'll be asking for a little help along the way. If all goes well, I'll have a slick ride in time to put it away for winter storage (starts pretty early up here in the Great White North).
 
Right, forgot the pictures.

Here is my main bike, The Red Rocket:

And here is the Parts Dolphin. It doesn't look nearly as good anymore since I took all the chrome and the new tires for the Rocket. Plus the tank is rusting through so despite the nice paint, it will have to go.
 

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Trying one more time to post the Dolphin. Sorry for the hamhands.
 

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The Honda CM 400 was my very first bike...man, that was a long time ago. I have more vivid memories on that bike than any other (first time's always the best they say). I'm starting my first cafe build also, so I'm not a lot of help. I do know that you have a very dependable bike with plenty of parts...you're set! I totally understand your financial and spouse woes: I'm a teacher also and recently tried to explain to my wife why I need another motorcycle (I have a KTM 300, YZ 250, TT-R and Raptor for the kids). Women just don't understand that a man needs a motocross bike for track days, trail bike for weekends, and a cafe racer for the road...what's wrong with them! ::)
 
Glad you liked your CM400! I've seen some pretty mixed reaction to the bike around the cafe forums. But I think most of that is reacting to people who want to take the bike beyond its potential. For my purposes so far, it's really a great fit.

To be fair, my wife is actually pretty cool about my new hobby. You're right she really doesn't understand why I would want another bike, or why I would take parts of a perfectly well-running bike just to clean or tune them for that matter. But she does tolerate a lot of playing around and quite a bit of spending considering our income level. Really the biggest issue is time. We're also rehabbing a rundown old house right now so I have to balance time on the bike with time on the house projects. If the gutters don't get replaced within the next couple of weeks, I'll catch hell for wasting time on the bike. If the gutters get replaced and the new drywall in the livingroom gets sanded, I can probably rebuild the entire bike if I want to.

Anyway, I checked out your Kawi pics. Looks like a fun project. That's a crazy big tank you've got mocked up. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
 
AS a fellow CM owner, I know what you mean about the cafe. They are not quite as easy to make look "right" but it can be done. The biggest thing is the back end, the way it kicks up. But they are super easy to work on and great fun on twisty roads. I just put a new set of sneakers on mine, I got 2 Avon road riders for 75 a piece. They make it handle awsome. I was scratching pegs on every turn once I got them run in. Cheers, can't wait to see what you do to the bike.

Maritime.
 
Thanks for the input! I was actually looking at the front to back slope yesterday. I notice that there is tons of play in the front shocks so I was thinking of dropping the front end 2-3 inches by lifting the fork that much farther into the triple tree, but I am a tiny bit worried that the front end might bottom out on hard bumps (Michigan roads are full of potholes since we have heavy ice, heavy trucks, and heavy economic problems). Did you ever play around with that?

That's all a bit down the road anyhow. I finally got the carbs cleaned and tuned and threw them on the bike last night. Battery and tank off the running bike, fingers crossed, and... nothing. I know I have spark so I think there's a compression problem. Gonna run a compression test tonight and try to identify the source, but I suspect the head. So it might be a bit before I can actually get fire in the belly and start thinking about aesthetics.
 
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Glad you liked your CM400! I've seen some pretty mixed reaction to the bike around the cafe forums. But I think most of that is reacting to people who want to take the bike beyond its potential. For my purposes so far, it's really a great fit.

To be fair, my wife is actually pretty cool about my new hobby. You're right she really doesn't understand why I would want another bike, or why I would take parts of a perfectly well-running bike just to clean or tune them for that matter. But she does tolerate a lot of playing around and quite a bit of spending considering our income level. Really the biggest issue is time. We're also rehabbing a rundown old house right now so I have to balance time on the bike with time on the house projects. If the gutters don't get replaced within the next couple of weeks, I'll catch hell for wasting time on the bike. If the gutters get replaced and the new drywall in the livingroom gets sanded, I can probably rebuild the entire bike if I want to.

Anyway, I checked out your Kawi pics. Looks like a fun project. That's a crazy big tank you've got mocked up. Can't wait to see how it turns out.
Yeah...the tank is a little big. I sat on it today and I figure I'll have to take some off the back end or lose 20 lbs. The tanks is extremely narrow, which I wanted. We'll see how it goes...it may just end up a huge fireball!
 
I hear you about potholes. We have more than most because we have wicked freeze thaw. And none are filled for the first 2 months of summer. I haven't dropped my front, but I hear it can be done. I just got a new set of Avon tires, AM26 roadriders and man huge difference in the bike. Handles wicked. Got them for 75.00 ea. Regular price was 150 ea. 2 for one. I had the typical dunlop old school that seems to be the back tire everybody uses on these old bikes, and a cheng shin front. Went to a 130/90/16 in the back and the 100/90/18 in the front and huge improvement in the bike.

Good luck on the compression test. I did one on mine and it came out great but the bike still uses oil. So I will have to do a top end on it. At least that is easy on these as the motor does not have to be removed.

Cheers,
 
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