to buy or not to buy

Re: Re: to buy or not to buy

Keiff Hardcore said:
IF its a runner [meaning all i have to do is clean up the carbs and freshen up the fluids to get the motor to run]
the totals would be
$100 for used forks, rear shocks, wheels and tires.
$140 for ALL cables, new points, carb gaskets, and brake pads.
$150 for bike and new battery.

total-$390. im a cheap skate, and im NOT trying to build a pretty bike. just one that works the way its intended.

I've heard something about counting eggs and baskets...it'll come to me. :) Best luck hombre.
 
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You seem determined to dive into this folly in spite of what we are telling you. You are delusional at best.

You will never get this bike running based on no experience to start with. You will easily dump $1,000 into that piece of shit if you ever get that far, which is unlikely.
 
Re: Re: to buy or not to buy

Rich Ard said:
I've heard something about counting eggs and baskets...it'll come to me. :) Best luck hombre.
im not going to spend a penny till i see the bike. and im still digging around for something in better shape, but i havent found anything.
 
AlphaDogChoppers said:
You seem determined to dive into this folly in spite of what we are telling you. You are delusional at best.

You will never get this bike running based on no experience to start with. You will easily dump $1,000 into that piece of shit if you ever get that far, which is unlikely.
i havent jumped into anything yet. if it runs on starting fluid after a quick clean up, then ill build on it. if it doesnt want to run, its a parts bike. i dont mean to come off as "no matter what THIS BIKE WILL RUN no matter the cost" but i tend to be optimistic about stuff. and i may not have a lot of experience with bikes, but i have plenty of experience on working with tight budgets with cars.
 
That is a very steep hill to climb. But at 125 or whatever you can negotiate for it, it's not expensive. Drag it home and pull the motor and strip it and see how bad the rust is inside. Worst case scenario - you sell the titled frame and part out the motor etc. I wouldn't bother trying to run an old rusty motor. All that does is scratch things and damage parts that might otherwise be salvageable.

Offer her 50 bucks and allow yourself to go to 75 max and treat it as a learning experience. Once you have it apart, you can assess the damage.
 
Keiff Hardcore said:
i tend to be optimistic about stuff.

It's a fine line between optimistic and delusional. I'm jes sayin'...

Keiff Hardcore said:
i may not have a lot of experience with bikes

Most of us here telling you to walk away are very experienced with old bikes in a wide variety of condition.

This is not a good project. It's a money pit. The gas tank will be trash. The carburetors may not even be salvageable. Chain and tires are all trash. Cables will all have to be replaced. There is no exhaust system.

Even if the engine turns out to be useable, you will still be into the project for at least $800 for parts that you MUST buy to make it run. You can buy a running bike for $800.

Walk away.
 
AlphaDogChoppers said:
It's a fine line between optimistic and delusional. I'm jes sayin'...

Most of us here telling you to walk away are very experienced with old bikes in a wide variety of condition.

This is not a good project. It's a money pit. The gas tank will be trash. The carburetors may not even be salvageable. Chain and tires are all trash. Cables will all have to be replaced. There is no exhaust system.

Even if the engine turns out to be useable, you will still be into the project for at least $800 for parts that you MUST buy to make it run. You can buy a running bike for $800.

Walk away.
i completely understand. but do you agree with at least tearing it down for learning purposes if i can pick it up for under $100 then?
 
There is an argument on both sides here. On the against side, see above posts. On the for side, if you get it for around $100 - 150, you get a titled frame in your name. Frankly, my experiences with a couple dozen project bikes says that alone is a worthwhile investment. I have seen folks spend $150-300 just to get a title for their pristine ready to ride bike after already spending the big money. ALWAYS best to start with a titled frame. Sort of like building a house - you start with a foundation.

If you later find a titled runner, you may be able to use some of the parts, but parting it out will recoup your initial money. Biggest issue I would see is "do you have palace to store it?" He'll - a used wiring harness in decent shape can run you $50. There is a LOT of junk there, but enough value for my money.

Just my .02 after having chased half a dozen titles down as many rabbit holes.

I agree you will easily spend $400-1,000 getting that one safely on the road unless you already have another decent parts bike . . .

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Re: Re: to buy or not to buy

makotosun said:
There is an argument on both sides here. On the against side, see above posts. On the for side, if you get it for around $100 - 150, you get a titled frame in your name. Frankly, my experiences with a couple dozen project bikes says that alone is a worthwhile investment. I have seen folks spend $150-300 just to get a title for their pristine ready to ride bike after already spending the big money. ALWAYS best to start with a titled frame. Sort of like building a house - you start with a foundation.

If you later find a titled runner, you may be able to use some of the parts, but parting it out will recoup your initial money. Biggest issue I would see is "do you have palace to store it?" He'll - a used wiring harness in decent shape can run you $50. There is a LOT of junk there, but enough value for my money.

Just my .02 after having chased half a dozen titles down as many rabbit holes.

I agree you will easily spend $400-1,000 getting that one safely on the road unless you already have another decent parts bike . . .

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+1

I want to see a vintage bike in use as much as anybody else here - if your goal is to end up with a usable machine, this is not a time- and cost-effective way to do it. Pennsylvania is well-stocked with cheap bikes, though it takes patience. Weigh that time spent waiting against the cash and hours that bike will take. Sniping CL will take less of both.
 
makotosun said:
There is an argument on both sides here. On the against side, see above posts. On the for side, if you get it for around $100 - 150, you get a titled frame in your name. Frankly, my experiences with a couple dozen project bikes says that alone is a worthwhile investment. I have seen folks spend $150-300 just to get a title for their pristine ready to ride bike after already spending the big money. ALWAYS best to start with a titled frame. Sort of like building a house - you start with a foundation.

If you later find a titled runner, you may be able to use some of the parts, but parting it out will recoup your initial money. Biggest issue I would see is "do you have palace to store it?" He'll - a used wiring harness in decent shape can run you $50. There is a LOT of junk there, but enough value for my money.

Just my .02 after having chased half a dozen titles down as many rabbit holes.

I agree you will easily spend $400-1,000 getting that one safely on the road unless you already have another decent parts bike . . .

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this is how i feel about it. if i can scrounge parts either from another title less bike or buy good used stuff to put her back together. i am by no means saying the motor is good, but if its not frozen and its clean on the inside to me its worth a rebuild. if i stumble into another titled bike then i just have a good parts bike.
 
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