Turn signal idiot light stays on... (CJ360)

JakubAnton

JakubAnton

1977 Honda CJ360T - - - - 2012 Suzuki TU250 - - -
Hey I posted this on my build thread. But maybe I'll have more luck starting a new topic in electrics....

Anyways

What's going on here is with the turn signal indicator idiot light on the speedo/tach gauges... It is brightly illuminated from the moment i turn the key to provide power to the bike. That is, unless either turn signal is on, then it flashes appropriately. All 4 turn signals are on as well,(Luke running lights), they just flash off and on when I flip the switch left or right.
But am I wrong or should the idiot light be OFF until I engage a turn signal indicator? Should all the turn signals be off completely until engaged? I'm pretty thats the case, but I really don't know where to start to get it to switch. Any help is appreciated...
 
Sounds like the wiring in either the headlight bucket or under the tank is wrong. Honda color coded all the wiring for the signals, should be easier to sort out.
 
flasher is good. i am gunna open up the headlight and see what i can find out... maybe i crossed some wires when i was putting everything back together. thanks for the input you guys. 8)
 
Sounds like the idiot light is wired into the running lights circuit in the headlamp bowl - should be an easy swopover with the wiring diagram to hand.
 
"Flasher is good"...
Is it the OEM original or an aftermarket unit?
 
kerdomoto said:
Sounds like the idiot light is wired into the running lights circuit in the headlamp bowl - should be an easy swopover with the wiring diagram to hand.
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unlikely as it flashes when turn signals are applied..
 

sharpie ;) relay could be deteriorated to the point a certain amount of current is needed, wich is only provided with the switch in a certain position. My english is not so good to explain what i mean.. darn..
electronics are difficult once it does something other then expected, and as the relay is in 90% of the signal-horror the cause, i suggested to check that first.

oh and how about you open a topic in wich you post all your avatars in hi-res?
 
I suspected it was aftermarket.
Some aftermarket relays are set up to supply power until they are "switched on". I'm sure somebody can explain this with the technical aspects, but basically the relay is on all the time, and flashes by turning off. The OEM style flasher is off all the time, and flashes by turning on. Make sense?
What you describe, seems to me, is that the turnsignals function, but the lights are on when they should be off. And off when they should be on.
It could be you bought the wrong type flasher relay.
 
I have a thought, stock relays are 2 wire units. There are 3 wires in the area where they are. You want to us the GREY wire not the GREEN wire. I've made that same mistake using the green. Was blowing fuses though not having weird lighting issues.
 
Redbird said:
I suspected it was aftermarket.
Some aftermarket relays are set up to supply power until they are "switched on". I'm sure somebody can explain this with the technical aspects, but basically the relay is on all the time, and flashes by turning off. The OEM style flasher is off all the time, and flashes by turning on. Make sense?
What you describe, seems to me, is that the turnsignals function, but the lights are on when they should be off. And off when they should be on.
It could be you bought the wrong type flasher relay.
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The relay IS on all the time, it isn't grounded until you hit switch though.
Grey wire from relay into center of switch and comes out on either light blue or orange wire. (I had to fit a new one this afternoon)
Is it a 2 pin or 3 pin relay?
 
crazypj said:
The relay IS on all the time, it isn't grounded until you hit switch though.
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Then technically, it isn't "on" all the time then. Not until it's grounded :p
The ON I was referring to was the function you see... the lights.
You did clarify my thoughts for me, on what was going on though. The two types of relays I was referring to are Normally Open relays, and Normally Closed relays. A "closed" relay supplies power through itself when not energized, and does not when energized. An "open" relay supplies no power through itself until it's energized. However, these types of relays are multiple pin relays, and the bike would have to be wired specifically for a closed relay system. Therefore making it moot in the case.

Jakub, listen to PJ. He's the Honda Guru.
 
It may be easier to say they are all 'live' as they are connected to a black wire (which, on Honda has 12v when ignition on)
The three wires are black, grey , green
Black = in
Grey = out
Green = ground
 
Thanks for all the replies- I am not exactly sure what I did... But I somehow fixed it.
I was just frustrated so I unplugged everything related to the turn signals from everywhere and just started putting connections back together one by one until I ran out of stray connectors. When I turned the battery back on- the light was off- that is until I put either turn signal on. Then it flashed accordingly and appropriately. Thanks or all who helped.
 
LOL ;D
Hate it when things go right for no good reason, never sure what you did to 'fix' it (I need answers when I fix things ;) )
 
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