Victoria! Zeke's CB175 Build

Sonreir said:
Just checked part numbers and the clutch plates are different. Weird. I know I've put a 360 clutch into a 350 before, though.
I wouldn't let a little thing like a part number get in your way


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Sonreir said:
Just checked part numbers and the clutch plates are different. Weird. I know I've put a 360 clutch into a 350 before, though.

350 TWIN is same as 360
350 FOUR is different to 360

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I really thought you would get better than that, around 22cfm or are those numbers before any work?
 
Sonreir said:
Just checked part numbers and the clutch plates are different. Weird. I know I've put a 360 clutch into a 350 before, though.

The clutch baskets will be different depending on tooth count, offset (double) gears, cushion bushing etc. the plates, however, rarely change.

The best friction plates that Honda have made for the old baskets ends with 020. You won't find the originals, but a repro operation in Taiwan makes them BETTER than the originals. But you would be going Kevlar right?

Keep in mind that all plates and discs will be different thicknesses depending on how many plates Honda stacked. They would range from 4-6 plates. You can mix and match and even mix the "a" plate (the inner-most extra thick plate) to find the one that suits you best. You can play with the springs as well. More surface area doesn't always necessarily mean better transmission of power.

FYI, many discs and plates are cross compatible. When I rebuilt the clutch on a Honda Dream I used Goldwing discs and removed the retaining clips from the baskets.
 

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I often used modified double steel plates in center of clutch. It helps keep things a little cooler if you increase oil flow between plates. The double plates get some oil grooves. You have to drill clutch hub as well, couple of people have posted pics
It also gives slightly more spring pre-load
 
crazypj said:
... You have to drill clutch hub as well, couple of people have posted pics
It also gives slightly more spring pre-load
Is this what you mean?
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Yep, that's the modification.
As far as I know all modern superbikes have the holes drilled.
One of the 'upgrades' Suzuki did on GSXR a few years ago was to increase hole diameter 0.25mm to increase oil flow
I've drilled extra holes in back plate to balance hub but it didn't seem to make any difference and probably wasn't worth the time it took
 
crazypj said:
350 TWIN is same as 360
350 FOUR is different to 360

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I really thought you would get better than that, around 22cfm or are those numbers before any work?
yes this a stock constipated 160 head. All we did today was get baseline data.


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Should work well with very minor clean up then.
I'll take another look, how does intake/exhaust flow compare?
Exhaust around 80% of intake flow?
 
Well that was very informative I can see how you can really screw up porting by getting things out of whack


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Also I have read that the 160 cam was more radical then the 175 cam but that is not true


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