XS650 320mm double front disc upgrade. Incl. spacer template

stange_dk

XS650 caferacer / SV650 Endurance project
Hello,

I recently put 320mm floating discs from a FZR1000 on my '75 XS650 and I thought that others might be interested in some details...

My XS was born with two discs in front but the brake master and spongy rubber hoses made braking a very "interesting" thing. Also my fork seals were bust so I started assembling a new front end:

- 35mm fork legs from a later XS (the whole front end is a direct swap with aftermarket roller bearings)
- brembo brake master (has brake switch built in)
- FZR 1000 320 mm brake discs
- Two 6mm thick aluminium spacers to go behind the discs
- two SV650 two-piston brake calipers
- two steel-braided brake lines (directly from master to calipers)
- caliper spacer made out of 6mm high grade aluminum

all parts are relatively easy to source from ebay...

1. Give a brake disc to a machine shop and have them make a round spacer with holes corresponding to the disc. If you have a lathe, you may be able to make them yourself...

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2. Put front wheel back on with your new spacers and discs (in the picture you can see my plywood mockup)

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3. If you have a 35mm fork on, chances are that you only need a 6mm thick piece of high-grade aluminium and a printer. Print out the template I've attached (remember that your printer should not "scale automatically") and use it to mark the 4 holes

Download template: http://www.mediafire.com/?r8sqs12u8vocpib

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4. Drill/cut out the spacer. The two holes for the fork leg should have a 8,5 mm diameter. Then cut a 1.50 thread for a 10mm bolt in the two holes. The calipers are mounted on a floating bracket with threaded holes so the spacer just needs two 10mm holes for the bolts to pass through here.

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5. test-mount to see that everything fits

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6. put on your sportsbike master cylinder... any 90's/early 2000's sportbike bike master will do.

7. Bolt your brake lines up and bleed the system... takes 5 minutes with this cheap but amazingly effective compressed air gizmo: http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/GriotsGarage/35714?$detail$

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8. ride and enjoy 2-finger braking with lots of feel!
(only one the left caliper is connected in this photo as I managed to squeeze one in the bike lift :-(
 
bravo man. bravo. Great job on the upgrade, and an even greater job on the write up WITH the template.

if i wore a hat, it would be off right now :D
 
wow!!! glad I found this thread... I'm actually wanting to do this right now.. can you go into more detail with the 6mm spacers???, also what year is your bike...
 
@rocan: Thanks a lot 8)

@malloy: the bike is a 1975 XS650B. Originally, it has 34mm forks but I changed them to the 1976- 35mm forks so that's the type you need for the caliper spacer. The disc spacers are simply a 6mm thick piece of aluminum that matches the "footprint" of the brake disc. If you look at the original brake disc it slides onto the wheel hub. The FZR disc has the same holes but it is slimmer. So you need something under the disc to space it out from the hub. Does this make sense?
 
my bike is a 75 as well. ! we really need to talk. 8) Right now I have the 34mm shocks. will this work for the 34's ? I ordered a 35mm set of trees last night so eventualy i'm going to go to the better forks. I also ordered the calipers from the sv650.. found a great deal on ebay last night after seeing this thread.

on a side note, what type of throttle setup are you running. I really hate the dual throttle setup on the 75. I'm still running the stock bs38's cause there is nothing wrong with them. I was thinking of build a 2-1 throttle cable.. any thoughts on this?
 
I dont think that the caliper spacer will work for the 34mm's as I believe that the mounting holes are closer together. But of course you can just make your own template with the holes closer together :) just measure it carefully and drill it out. You can make a dummy out of wood, if you want to check if it fits.

I run mikuni VM34's with this twist grip. Its quick-action - very responsive!

http://kickstartershop.de/product_info.php?info=p3182_GASGRIFF-Gasdrehgriff-TOMMASELLI-Enduro-XT-XL-XR-TT-500.html&XTCsid=epcsudh9uibrqduqeb0u0gpob2

and this 2-1 throttle cable, Part #51-6506
http://www.mikesxs.net/products-41.html#products

the problem with a 2-1 cable on the BS carbs is that you cannot adjust the cables indivdually - and there's no adjustment on the carb body... so it's almost impossible to keep them in sync (I tried...)

the VM's have cable adjustment on the carb body and thus work fine with 2-1.


stange
 
that super-pratic sure is tasty... I've been eyeballing the vm34's for awhile, but I was told it was a downgrade from the bs38's.. still up in the air... thank's for the help.. sorry for jacking the thread..
 
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