Yam RD New LED Seat Setup Wiring

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Didnt see the blinkers runnin yet

When i bought from the p.o. There was no relais even installed

Maybe thats the reason why theres no 'button' to unpush the blinkers on the bar controls....

So your suggested relais is still plug and play?

 

[sav0r]

I have a rd350 and was confused about the third pole when I posted the module. My system runs the gauge cluster light, as well as the blinkers obviously, off of two poles. That's when I went searching for the 400 diagram, sure enough there was a cancellor. The people who follow me wish I had one.

 

[Redbird]

So your suggested relais is still plug and play?

Yes, it should still plug and play
The self cancelling feature should be on a timer and not a button you would push.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

hey redbird!


just talked to my local relais dealer (moto electrics dealer) and he told me that i can still use that relais i bought in the first place when i connect:...the blinker "stopper" will not work but i dont need it anyways...

49a to brown white
49 to brown
31 to ground

what did he mean by ground?connect a wire to the metal on the frame to ground the relais?

he didnt tell me what he meant but he told me to skip the yellow green one....

do you think this will work?

how can i switch off the blinkers...by putting the switch in the middle?there is no "button" function on my handlbar control...

 

[Redbird]

Yea, that sounds about right. I'm on my phone... and drunk
I think you'll have to swap the brown and brown/white wires in the plug, but that should work. Then you'll just wire the relay to ground and not use the green wire from the OEM harness.
You should still be able to cancel the signal manually by centering the switch. It just won't auto cancel.

I'll give it a second look tomorrow when I'm sober

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Hey redbird!

Tried the setup yesterday and it worked perfect!

I m so happy that i can roll with the relais i bought.thank you for help!

Another question maybe you can help me out:

For the front blinkers and the headl bucket.

How do i connect the blinkers properly?there is a plus plug connector but no minus for thr blinkers.
There are these ring pieces that are connected to the bucket...do i need to connect these with the minus of the blinker connectors?

Cheers mate!!

 

[Redbird]

Cool! Glad to hear you were able to use it

Are there two wires coming from the blinker, or just one?
If there's two, you can ground them to the ring terminals in the bucket.
If there's only one, then the blinker will ground through the stalk to the chassis.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Thanks to your help my project is coming along nicely!

The Led blinkers have one yellow one black cable,yellow seems to be plus and black minus.

So how would you connect the black plug connectors to the ring connectors.

I guess the best way would be to mount ring connectors to the black blinker cables and then connecting.both rings to the bucket.

I did change the headlight mount,it grasps the forks with rubber pads,will this affect the ground of the bucket or is the bucket 'itself' enough ground?

Cheers!!

 

[Redbird]

Yes, all you need to do with the black wires is ground them. You could also use the same ground location for both wires if need be.
Also, if the headlight bucket is rubber mounted now, it most likely won't work as a very good ground. Does your headlight work? It shouldn't be grounded to the bucket, so you can use the same ground wire for the blinkers.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Yes, all you need to do with the black wires is ground them. You could also use the same ground location for both wires if need be.
Also, if the headlight bucket is rubber mounted now, it most likely won't work as a very good ground. Does your headlight work? It shouldn't be grounded to the bucket, so you can use the same ground wire for the blinkers.

yes the headlight works with no bucket on.
so there should be a ground wire out of the loom coming to the white connector with the H4 bulb in it....there is a black, blue and yellow cable.which one will be the ground(i would guess black...)?

so i would connect now : the black wires from the blinkers to the - of the loom cable going to the H4 connector...hope this is right!

the little bulb for the dim light is not even built in so i have to buy one....again there are two connections....

can i connect the dim light (-) terminal also to the headlight (-) terminal?

is the + terminal the plug terminal (on the backside of the bulb case) or the black wire with the plugging connector?

 

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AAAAAAAAAAAND theres another question waiting for you....cant tell you how thankful i am!

i cant get the neutral switch to work....bike is in neutral...i rebuilt the motor including a new neutral switch plate (white plastic part was broken)...i removed the generator cuz i installed new crank seals...

in the pictures you can see the cable coming from the generator...i did not forget to connect it to the white plastic piece with the tiny screw...so this temrminal should work...

is it possible that the bike only shows neutral when motor and generator is running???...would be illogical...we all had this starting with a gear in

or is the neutral switch in the dashboard connected to the ground of the headbucket i cant ge tit to run cuz of the non mounted headbucket...?

maybe the bulb is just fucked up....

thanks in advance!!!

cheers mate!!

 

[Redbird]

According to the H4 light pin-out, blue should be your highbeam, and yellow your lowbeam. But according to your wiring diagram, Yellow should be highbeam, and green(?) should be your lowbeam. You may have to swap those two wires to see which way works correctly for you. Either way, the black is the ground wire. You can use either of the black wires to tap into as a ground for the blinkers.
Both of those ground wires probably plug into a double or triple bullet connector somewhere in the loom inside the bucket.

As for the neutral switch... When the bike is in neutral, the switch grounds to the motor/frame. For the light to work, you have to have power to one side of the light, and the other side goes to the switch. Like this...

When the neutral switch closes/grounds it completes the circuit and allows the light to illuminate

Make sense?

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

Both of those ground wires probably plug into a double or triple bullet connector somewhere in the loom inside the bucket.

hey red!!

today it tried to connect the minus of the blinkers to the "bullet" connector you see in the crappy pic i made with my cell phone and it worked!!!
so i can obviously can eliminate the two round connectors we talked about which are normally connected to the bucket...dont I,cuz the headlight will work anyways...

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

As for the neutral switch... When the bike is in neutral, the switch grounds to the motor/frame. For the light to work, you have to have power to one side of the light, and the other side goes to the switch. Like this...

When the neutral switch closes/grounds it completes the circuit and allows the light to illuminate

Make sense?

bike is in neutral....i have no chain on so i rotate the sprocket anti clockwise to check...

i looked in the idiot light panel to check out if the bulb is broken...nope it works fine (used a wire and connected it to the battery...lights up...)

then i removed the side panel where the generator is bolted on and checked the connection of the blue wire to the white plastic panel which i replaced....cleaned it and used some grit paper to refresh the connection...again no light.

do you have an idea how i can check where the problem is?i have a mulitmeter (dunno how to use it yet ;-)) so i could check connections and wires...
hope you can help me out!!

 

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hey red!

reposted the neutral switch problem here...http://www.dotheton.com/forum/index.php?topic=62612.msg712641#msg712641

maybe you can help me out!
thank you so much!

 

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hey redbird i got another attack on you you just have been too helpful for me!!! 8)

i´m trying to get my front brake light switch to work...
i bought a new brake pump from an yamaha XJ its an 5/8....and it has this tiny switch i think i need to connect to my brown and green yellow cables from the stock loom (see pic).

i tried to connect them to the switch by holding the copper strands onto the switch and holding the brake pump...no reaction in the lights...maybe there need to be fluid in it but i guess no cuz its really just this little switch right there...

maybe you can help me out!!

 

[Redbird]

You shouldn't need fluid in it for it to work, it's a simple push button switch.
However, if you touch the Brown and Green/Yellow wires together, the brake light should come on.
If it doesn't, there's a problem elsewhere.
If it does, the switch may be faulty.

And don't forget, the ignition needs to be on for the brake light to work.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

You shouldn't need fluid in it for it to work, it's a simple push button switch.
However, if you touch the Brown and Green/Yellow wires together, the brake light should come on.
If it doesn't, there's a problem elsewhere.
If it does, the switch may be faulty.

And don't forget, the ignition needs to be on for the brake light to work.

Hey

With the ignition on i tried to touch them together...no brake light.

Am i right when i look at the diagram that brown (-) goes to the bucket on a bullet connector and green yellow goes to the rear nrake light switch (+).

My guess is that there is a ground issue in the bucket...

 

[Redbird]

Am i right when i look at the diagram that brown (-) goes to the bucket on a bullet connector and green yellow goes to the rear nrake light switch (+).

You're mostly correct. The Brown is not an earth though, it's an ignition hot.
The taillight is grounded at the back of the bike. The switch on the lever is simply a "gate" that allows the power to flow through to the taillight.
Does the taillight work with the foot pedal?
If so, the brown wire by the bar lever is likely not plugged in properly.

 

[2_DONE_THE_TON]

You're mostly correct. The Brown is not an earth though, it's an ignition hot.
The taillight is grounded at the back of the bike. The switch on the lever is simply a "gate" that allows the power to flow through to the taillight.
Does the taillight work with the foot pedal?
If so, the brown wire by the bar lever is likely not plugged in properly.

problem solved!!!

thank you so much!i did exactl as you said and it works puuuurrrfect!!
the brown wire of the brake light was not even plugged in

so next thing will be checking the other components before i´ll start that sucker after 9 months....DANG that was a ride

Red which contacts would you check before trying to start a competely rebuilt moto?
maybe check power to coil?
maybe rectifier!?


hope you can help me!
thank you again my friend!!