FZR600 fighter

I agree with force, orange and silver just does not do it! But I have to say that with the color orange you are using, the copper hamer is a no go too! Orange works well with a only a few colors to me! Black, Brown, Green, Nose candy white! With the browns and greens you have to think Fall colors! Earthtones! Not for this bike! So the black is good, you just have to let it do what black does= deimphasize shit you dont want attention drawn to so that your bright shit gets the looks!
 
JRK5892 said:
i agree... so lets pick another color to go with the orange... what you guys think?
i am leaning towards silver... but still not sure
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Go green......

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Hmmm....maybe not ;D

Actually I second the idea of an orange frame / swingarm combo with black bodywork. Maybe also use the orange as highlights elsewhere on the bike (bars, engine side cases, logo??). Would look pretty neat ;)
 
ok so wheels, frame, swing arm, calipers, fork lowers, lower engine rails all get orange... everything else gets black?
gloss or flat?

will that put us on the same page? i only have to know cause i have to start to seperate this stuff tonight so i can get rolling on the powder...sorry for all the questions, chops, bobbers, cafes... that jsut comes to me, this i have to work for...
i also ordered this powder a while back and never used it, it is a silver almost gun metal with light black flake to it... when i am in the shop tonight i will shoot a sample bottle of the color i am using as well as some of the other colors to put them next to it, give us a better idea of where to go... what do you think?
 
forcefanajd said:
wet black
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+1 Glossy wet lake reflection black as the depths of the Irish loche!

That is sounding really sick! You are back on track to an exceptionally kick ass fighter!

Now, I have an idea on the wheels, do just the hoop in the orange and the spokes in wet black! I know they are rims and not spoke wheels but you could still do it that way!
What do you guys think?
 
tWistedWheelz said:
+1 Glossy wet lake reflection black as the depths of the Irish loche!

That is sounding really sick! You are back on track to an exceptionally kick ass fighter!

Now, I have an idea on the wheels, do just the hoop in the orange and the spokes in wet black! I know they are rims and not spoke wheels but you could still do it that way!
What do you guys think?
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+1.....DO IT
 
I am getting excited about this build again! Joe, do you think you might want to sell it when your done, I may know someone who is interested! ;)
 
I'm sitting at the bar right now thinking about this one over a couple drinks and I really feel like you need to get some wrinkle black somewhere on this one for a little contrast in texture.....I just can't think of anywhere to put it.
 
forcefanajd said:
I'm sitting at the bar right now thinking about this one over a couple drinks and I really feel like you need to get some wrinkle black somewhere on this one for a little contrast in texture.....I just can't think of anywhere to put it.
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I knew we coulden't go on agreeing forever! I think that the carbon look with the satin finish will offer an appearence of texture change, while the slick finnish of the rest of it will work well! I think if you start to incorperate anything else you may loose the cleaness of the current scheme. I know what you mean about the texture, I just feel it has no place in this scheme, it would all have to be changed to incorperate something else.
 
tWistedWheelz said:
I knew we coulden't go on agreeing forever! I think that the carbon look with the satin finish will offer an appearence of texture change, while the slick finnish of the rest of it will work well! I think if you start to incorperate anything else you may loose the cleaness of the current scheme. I know what you mean about the texture, I just feel it has no place in this scheme, it would all have to be changed to incorperate something else.
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I missed the whole carbon fiber look thing....to me a matte finish is a texture.....so that could work, but I have not seen his carbon fiber look efffect.....sounds cool but why not actually wrap it in carbon fiber and then clear it with say 40% clear on top of the urethane afterwards?
 
^ I agree with all that! I think we have given Joe enough to spin his head on for a while! After he soaks some of this in, we can converse more! This has been a very productive brain storming session though!
 
ok guys... here is some to help you out, this is what the airbrushed carbon fiber looks like... (this is actually from the guy that showed me how to do it)

you can see it has pretty much silver in there, but that is fine. Well i looked last night at what is involved in dropping out the motor, to be honest, i am not too stoked about it. for a few reasons, #1 this is supposed to be a fast build for me, #2 we are so slammed in the shop, to strip and blast a frame takes around 2-3 hours alone... then 2 more hours for cure times on the 2 coats of powder... not sure if i really want to put 5 hours into this frame... BUT! i have a buddy does industrial blasting, he is going to see what he can get the guys in his shop to blast the 5 frames we have right now as well as the rocket frame, if i can get mine done cheap enough i can then just put it in our booth and put a nice profile on it wiht alum oxide and be good! so that hangs in the balance for now... the good news is... TODAY IS THE DAY MY CAFE GOES IN TO BE TUNED!!!! I AM PUMPED!
let me know if your ideas change around at all after seeing how the body pannels will look

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this is also the stencil i am using for the skulls on the bike
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I think all of our current plans on the scheme have melted together nicely! I say move forward with those plans! It will be well worth you effort in the end to get the frame powdered too!

I am a little unsure of your idea on the skulls, where and how do you plan to incorporate them? Colors? Ghost them in? Highlights?
 
i am going to fade them in , the flat part on top of the tank, and the small flat section on the rear, and the small windshield thing on the fairing will all be skulled in... that will be sprayed over the silver base coat using an mix of transperant black and reg black, they will be highlighted around the eyes and teeth with transperant orange to tie the powder work in a bit
 
I think the trans orange may not give a real highlight effect! You may want to use white then lay the trans orange on that to get the highlight effect. I like the idea of them only being on the top and in a ghost type of lay, just noticeable will be sweet!
 
that is what i was going to do, but i called and spoke to the tech at TCP global when i ordered my paints and he sugested this particular orange, i even emailed him pics of the orange, he sugested this orange because it is very bright but also a transperant, so it will be bright but subtle, i am going to shoot a test pannel this weekend if i get the paints in on time, least that will give me an idea of what i am working with... ill have to shoot 2, one for the carbon fiber and 1 for the skulls
 
also, instead of using a regular silver base coat for the carbon fiber and the skulls, what do you think it would look like if i was to shoot it in chrome spay paint? think that would have a cool effect as the base coat or look lame?
 
Not feeling the chrome, I think that might be lame. If you go for a carbon fiber look, then it needs to look like carbon fiber! It should be one of those things that someone in the konw has to walk up to it and go "oh, wow that is not real CF!" I am not really a fan of feux paint jobs usually. I think that real carbon fiber would be much, much cooler, but I also understand the constraints of that application! You creating the look of carbon fiber will still be cool, if it is done really well, and looks real (at least until your sitting on it)! I am sure you can pull it off, you do great work and don't settle on shit! You got this, now start wrenching if your going to make your deadline! If it looks like you are not going to make the deadline, find a way to make it work! DO NOT COMPROMISE YOUR QUALITY for a deadline! You will not be pleased in the end if you do!

Cheers
Brandon
 
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