1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - update march 31
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jay_kent
1979 cb650
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - LED Turn signals
Bought a pair of 6 volt signals for a CA90 from Taiwan to convert over to 12 volt for Honda cb650 cafe conversion. What won't I touch on this bike. Nothing will be original except for the frame it seems. I really like the small simple shape of them, they are low profile and will work well on my bike. IMO and that's really what matters.
So I purchased a bunch of ultra bright LEDs from a place here in Guelph<a href="http://www.neutronelectronics.com/" target="_blank">, Neutron Electronics</a> . I also bought the resistors that I needed from them as well. From now on though I probably will be purchasing my LEDs pre-wired from this person, <a href="http://stores.shop.ebay.ca/Empat-Manufacturing__W0QQ_armrsZ1" target="_blank">Empat Manufacturing</a> located in Michigan. I've purchased from them a couple of times and they have been great to deal with.
So onto what I did with my own DIY turnsignals. Let me tell you they are superbright. I have no fear that I will be seen in them. Because of the size of the turn signals I figured I could get 9 LEDs in each signal. There would be 3 series of 3 leds connected in parallel. Each series would have it's own resistor to make sure
A single series wired. Yep, that's good getto
The ends were shrink wrapped to prevent short circuiting. I was using two different types of LEDs hence the two different types of resistors. One set of LEDs had a lower voltage rating so it needed a higher resistor.
Here is one turn signal board all wired up. Each 3 LED string is wired in series, then each series is wired in parallel. Basically each series string can handle 12 volts passing through it but I needed 3 strings to in order to be bright enough so each string was wired in parallel. This is the cover. I just really like the look of it.
Daytime lighting. I think the lighting will be noticed.
Night time lighting
And a little video to show the difference between a stock bulb and mine
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If it looked like I changed how I mounted to the bread board half way through you'd be right, In my excitement, I showed my dad and brother how cool and bright this was and hooked it up to a battery charger. Lets say that there were casualties. :-\, and things had to be redone.
~Jay
Bought a pair of 6 volt signals for a CA90 from Taiwan to convert over to 12 volt for Honda cb650 cafe conversion. What won't I touch on this bike. Nothing will be original except for the frame it seems. I really like the small simple shape of them, they are low profile and will work well on my bike. IMO and that's really what matters.
So I purchased a bunch of ultra bright LEDs from a place here in Guelph<a href="http://www.neutronelectronics.com/" target="_blank">, Neutron Electronics</a> . I also bought the resistors that I needed from them as well. From now on though I probably will be purchasing my LEDs pre-wired from this person, <a href="http://stores.shop.ebay.ca/Empat-Manufacturing__W0QQ_armrsZ1" target="_blank">Empat Manufacturing</a> located in Michigan. I've purchased from them a couple of times and they have been great to deal with.
So onto what I did with my own DIY turnsignals. Let me tell you they are superbright. I have no fear that I will be seen in them. Because of the size of the turn signals I figured I could get 9 LEDs in each signal. There would be 3 series of 3 leds connected in parallel. Each series would have it's own resistor to make sure
A single series wired. Yep, that's good getto
The ends were shrink wrapped to prevent short circuiting. I was using two different types of LEDs hence the two different types of resistors. One set of LEDs had a lower voltage rating so it needed a higher resistor.
Here is one turn signal board all wired up. Each 3 LED string is wired in series, then each series is wired in parallel. Basically each series string can handle 12 volts passing through it but I needed 3 strings to in order to be bright enough so each string was wired in parallel. This is the cover. I just really like the look of it.
Daytime lighting. I think the lighting will be noticed.
Night time lighting
And a little video to show the difference between a stock bulb and mine
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If it looked like I changed how I mounted to the bread board half way through you'd be right, In my excitement, I showed my dad and brother how cool and bright this was and hooked it up to a battery charger. Lets say that there were casualties. :-\, and things had to be redone.
~Jay
jay_kent
1979 cb650
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Some DIY turnsignals
So I'm making a hard decision by not completing everything on my list before I ride this spring. I'll be putting the bike back to a riding state so I can enjoy it this year. So it means no 2 into 4 carb setup, or rearsets. However I'm moving ahead with the new seat, cowl, gauges and handlebars.
I won't be making my own but I will have to modify the mikes xs clip-ons I just ordered to get them to fit my controls and swtiches correctly. I also ordered the parts to shorten my throttle cables. I need to modify the wiring harness because the ignition switch needs to be moved seeing how I've cut everything off my triple tree. I'm also converting the fuse panel to spade. I've stolen the fuse box from our civic which has bitten the dust and will be doing a how-to on that within the week.
I'll be painting and putting my engine back together this week and the next, and I'm wonder what have you guys used to seal the cases? I want something that won't fall off and get into the oil system. Any suggestions. I'm kinda nervous about doing this, I want to do it right.
I'm going to be pushing this to ride ability by next month, it won't be as fancy, or where my vision of what it should be, but I'm anxious to ride and my wifes sr250 isn't cutting it anymore.
Thanks in advance for your advice on the engine
So I'm making a hard decision by not completing everything on my list before I ride this spring. I'll be putting the bike back to a riding state so I can enjoy it this year. So it means no 2 into 4 carb setup, or rearsets. However I'm moving ahead with the new seat, cowl, gauges and handlebars.
I won't be making my own but I will have to modify the mikes xs clip-ons I just ordered to get them to fit my controls and swtiches correctly. I also ordered the parts to shorten my throttle cables. I need to modify the wiring harness because the ignition switch needs to be moved seeing how I've cut everything off my triple tree. I'm also converting the fuse panel to spade. I've stolen the fuse box from our civic which has bitten the dust and will be doing a how-to on that within the week.
I'll be painting and putting my engine back together this week and the next, and I'm wonder what have you guys used to seal the cases? I want something that won't fall off and get into the oil system. Any suggestions. I'm kinda nervous about doing this, I want to do it right.
I'm going to be pushing this to ride ability by next month, it won't be as fancy, or where my vision of what it should be, but I'm anxious to ride and my wifes sr250 isn't cutting it anymore.
Thanks in advance for your advice on the engine
tWistedWheelz
BUILT NOT BOUGHT!
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Some DIY turnsignals
Go for the riding while the riding is good! You can still work on little stuff and do this or that a little at a time. You can have her running and only down for a few weekdays to work a bit and then back to running for a sunny weekend. I say go that route if it makes you happy. I whish I had a running bike, this weather makes me want to ride really bad. Good luck Jay!
Go for the riding while the riding is good! You can still work on little stuff and do this or that a little at a time. You can have her running and only down for a few weekdays to work a bit and then back to running for a sunny weekend. I say go that route if it makes you happy. I whish I had a running bike, this weather makes me want to ride really bad. Good luck Jay!
jay_kent
1979 cb650
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Need help on what to seal the engine cases
Thanks Twisted. You and the rest of the gang's opinions mean a lot to me and I don't want to let anyone down with this build. I just really want to ride this year. It's going to have the majority of the look, but it might not get the paintjob it deserves. Oh well, what's one more black cafe racer? :
Got my clip-ons from the Canadian site of Mikes XS. This is the 2nd time I've bought from them and once again I'm impressed. Ordered Monday, here today and they look awesome. Unfortunately I think I'll have to partially wreck the beautiful chrome finish. I'm going to need to lengthen them so that I can have my levers/switches. At least that part will be hidden.
I'm going to be putting the engine back together this week and I'm wonder what would be the best sealant to use, or what you've used and had good experience with.
Thanks Twisted. You and the rest of the gang's opinions mean a lot to me and I don't want to let anyone down with this build. I just really want to ride this year. It's going to have the majority of the look, but it might not get the paintjob it deserves. Oh well, what's one more black cafe racer? :
Got my clip-ons from the Canadian site of Mikes XS. This is the 2nd time I've bought from them and once again I'm impressed. Ordered Monday, here today and they look awesome. Unfortunately I think I'll have to partially wreck the beautiful chrome finish. I'm going to need to lengthen them so that I can have my levers/switches. At least that part will be hidden.
I'm going to be putting the engine back together this week and I'm wonder what would be the best sealant to use, or what you've used and had good experience with.
tWistedWheelz
BUILT NOT BOUGHT!
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Need help on what to seal the engine cases
Jay, I am mostly a design/fab and body and paint guy. I have very little experience inside a motor. I am decently a mechanic, better at diognosing problems and making simple repairs. But from all I have heard and read on here, Honda Bond is the shizzle! I would ask some of the real motor mad men of the site just to verify, but I think they will back that info up! Try PMing Kanticoy/Swagger/Crazypj and see what you get back on it! Good luck brother!
Jay, I am mostly a design/fab and body and paint guy. I have very little experience inside a motor. I am decently a mechanic, better at diognosing problems and making simple repairs. But from all I have heard and read on here, Honda Bond is the shizzle! I would ask some of the real motor mad men of the site just to verify, but I think they will back that info up! Try PMing Kanticoy/Swagger/Crazypj and see what you get back on it! Good luck brother!
tWistedWheelz
BUILT NOT BOUGHT!
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Need help on what to seal the engine cases
Well that means Honda Bond for sure, that is what would have come on it from the factory!
jay_kent said:
Well that means Honda Bond for sure, that is what would have come on it from the factory!
boomshakalaka
Over 1,000 Posts
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Need help on what to seal the engine cases
ya, which is interchangeable with yamabond, suzukibond, etc. From what I understand the stuff is all made by the same company.
tWistedWheelz said:
ya, which is interchangeable with yamabond, suzukibond, etc. From what I understand the stuff is all made by the same company.
Swagger
Putting boot to ass since 1967!
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Need help on what to seal the engine cases
Sorry...meant to add more.
I generally don't buy 'branded' chemicals....there will be a far less expensive automotive analog available in almost every instance.
The stuff I use where metal needs to be seald to metal but without a traditional gasket is Permatex Anaerobic "PX #51813" and their surface prep activator. The anaerobic is really similar to red loctite gel, but NOT THE SAME. hehe..
A little goes a long way, I buy the smallest tube I can get that'll do the job because typically it'll dry up before I use up the tube....it goes a long way.
You just need to make sure that both mating surfaces are as close to surgically clean as you can get.
Sorry...meant to add more.
I generally don't buy 'branded' chemicals....there will be a far less expensive automotive analog available in almost every instance.
The stuff I use where metal needs to be seald to metal but without a traditional gasket is Permatex Anaerobic "PX #51813" and their surface prep activator. The anaerobic is really similar to red loctite gel, but NOT THE SAME. hehe..
A little goes a long way, I buy the smallest tube I can get that'll do the job because typically it'll dry up before I use up the tube....it goes a long way.
You just need to make sure that both mating surfaces are as close to surgically clean as you can get.
jay_kent
1979 cb650
Re: 1979 CB650 Cafe Redo - Need help on what to seal the engine cases
Thanks again. I've got everything super clean and hopefully I'll be painting the engine this week.
Fender and seat cowl are coming along.
I've procured metal from an old dishwasher for some shaping and some flat stock aluminum that will be my headlight ears and gauge holder.
I'll be running the existing carbs with modified airboxes
Re-wiring the harness to accept the replacement of the fuses and switches
Paint, polish, cuss and drink. Times a'wasting and I want to ride.
I'm currently designing a dual purpose mounting system for my seats. My youngest is anxious to ride with me, after seeing her big brother drive off multiple times last year so I'll be doing a 2-up seat that can replace the solo seat. It'll probably get used most of the time as I'm the driver to daycare and it's mostly her.
How can you I say no to this face?
Thanks again. I've got everything super clean and hopefully I'll be painting the engine this week.
Fender and seat cowl are coming along.
I've procured metal from an old dishwasher for some shaping and some flat stock aluminum that will be my headlight ears and gauge holder.
I'll be running the existing carbs with modified airboxes
Re-wiring the harness to accept the replacement of the fuses and switches
Paint, polish, cuss and drink. Times a'wasting and I want to ride.
I'm currently designing a dual purpose mounting system for my seats. My youngest is anxious to ride with me, after seeing her big brother drive off multiple times last year so I'll be doing a 2-up seat that can replace the solo seat. It'll probably get used most of the time as I'm the driver to daycare and it's mostly her.
How can you I say no to this face?
