AWESOME BIZZARE STUFF - PREF MOTOR RELATED (or other, so long as interesting)

[Rocker]

Eli Whitney invented the cotton gin without ever having touched a piece of cotton.

Cheers! That perked me up a bit I like where your heads at boy-o

 

[Rocker]

48 Cylinder Kawasaki, anyone?

Kawasaki 48 Cylinder Runs!

Always loved that one... what nutter.. but absolute genius! And hy they asked him why'd he build that thing.. he would've replied... "why not?" LOL

 

[Hoofhearted]

Oily_Rag. You are planning to run a 750 (OHC, Pushrod?). A 750 will make so much HP. Its variable to a degree. You and your bike will create a certain amount of drag. Once again its a variable. The available HP and the created drag will limit the amount of gearing you can use. One other variable is the amount of money available. I don't know how close the DLRA rules are to the SCTA rules so I'm guessing.

At Bonneville you run a minimum of two miles. You can run up to three miles. If your bike can run over 175 you can run up to five miles. I don't know what distances the DLRA use. But running a small capacity engine (mine is a 500) three miles seems like an eternity. At Bonneville it takes two runs to set a record. You can build an engine to the hilt and hope it lasts. Or you can step it down a notch and run all week.

Partial streamlining here allows a huge amount of streamlining. Not too far away from Burt Munro's streamliner. Again I don't know the DLRA's rules on partial streamlining. The streamlining and engine building boils down to how much can you spend? Or if you are clever but broke you can make some slppery bits.

The gearing relates to the above. The more power you can make and the slippier you can make the streamlining more gearing you can pull. Quite simple really. LOL!!!

 

[Einstein]

other end of the scale...

IncredibleProject

Incredible. Maybe I should make parts instead of buying them...

 

[Rocker]

Oily_Rag. You are planning to run a 750 (OHC, Pushrod?). A 750 will make so much HP. Its variable to a degree. You and your bike will create a certain amount of drag. Once again its a variable. The available HP and the created drag will limit the amount of gearing you can use. One other variable is the amount of money available. I don't know how close the DLRA rules are to the SCTA rules so I'm guessing.

At Bonneville you run a minimum of two miles. You can run up to three miles. If your bike can run over 175 you can run up to five miles. I don't know what distances the DLRA use. But running a small capacity engine (mine is a 500) three miles seems like an eternity. At Bonneville it takes two runs to set a record. You can build an engine to the hilt and hope it lasts. Or you can step it down a notch and run all week.

Partial streamlining here allows a huge amount of streamlining. Not too far away from Burt Munro's streamliner. Again I don't know the DLRA's rules on partial streamlining. The streamlining and engine building boils down to how much can you spend? Or if you are clever but broke you can make some slppery bits.

The gearing relates to the above. The more power you can make and the slippier you can make the streamlining more gearing you can pull. Quite simple really. LOL!!!

Actually.. it's the DOHC 16 valve GSX motor.. no pushrods Just a big ass cam chain
Still thinking of questions... will get there eventually... I'm thinking of using a jack-shaft set-up to lengthen the gears.... I worked out I can get an easy 250mph... but trying to work out how quickly I can accelerate over the miles.. that's the thing....
.... at the other end of the scale.. worked out a theoretical 500mph given endless salt and the bike not blowing itself away into pieces.... as it enters warp speed LOL all from jack-shaft sprocket ratios... LOL :

 

[frogman]

Not really bizarre per say but a nothing gets me like a good old fashioned radial, say 28 cylinder Pratt and Whitney?? ;D

4360-63B

Wright 3350 Radial Engine

Just the noise alone is enough for me to just stand there and giggle like a school girl for hours.

 

[Rocker]

Froggy... reminds me of the build Jesse James did with the 12 cylinder rotary.... awesome stuff...

Now.. for my next image:

I just like the idea of two Triumph motors bolted together... pure pornography LOL

 

[Rocker]

Suzuki Bi-plane 8)

Totally a concept though.... for now.... we can always live in hope LOL

 

[redlinedave]

For Kate
Renault F1 Car playing God Save The Queen

 

[Hoofhearted]

One the factors i didn't think about is grip. When you get up over 200 grip is usually spelled with capital letters. We have a bunch of turbo'ed 'Busas and getting tires to survive has become a big issue here. The SCTA has ruled that if you run over 200 you have to go back to tech and have your tires checked and approved before you run again.

Grip becomes related to drag at those speeds. You should have the power to run 250 but as you know as speed increases drag increases fourfold. Once you get to the point where drag overcomes grip then you have a problem. Most of the big boys here have ballast (around 70 lbs or so) bolted to the swingarm to aid traction. Salt doesn't provide grip like ashphalt. Hell. if I can spin the tire with a 500 on the salt it gets scary to think what it must be like to try and control the 400+ HP Noonan has with his 'Busa.

McVicar hit the lights at Bonneville a few years ago at 243. He was spinning the back tire to the point where it blew. He dumped it but fortunately wasn't injured. Noonan was at the Mojave Mile a couple of weeks back with a very streamlined 'Busa. Illegal for SCTA. They don't allow dustbins. He was somewhere over 200 when he lost the front end. Again fortunately nothing major. Heres a photo of his bike. The streamlining on the rear of the bike is legal.

I hope when you start your build you'll post it here. It will be fascinating to watch how it proceeds.

P.S. I have no 200+ experience so in that respect I'll be of no help. I'm one of the slow pokes of LSR.

 

[crazypj]

....
.... at the other end of the scale.. worked out a theoretical 500mph given endless salt and the bike not blowing itself away into pieces.... as it enters warp speed LOL all from jack-shaft sprocket ratios... LOL :

: : :
Theoretically, if my auntie had balls, she's be my uncle ;D
It won't run in a vacuum, get realistic (just like the Dodge aberration, theoretical top speed, 250, falls down around 55 though : )

 

[Hoofhearted]

I got close with the Norton. According to the calculations I had it geared to do 132. It hit 130. The sidecar gearing is for 142. So far its hit 126. A bit more work to do. I never gave to much thought to grip seeing my Norton is only a 500 but this is a shot of the 130 run. If you look at the dust behind the back wheel you can see the power strokes pulsing up in the dust.

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My best tip is to reduce the aero drag as much as you can.

 

[Rocker]

: : :
Theoretically, if my auntie had balls, she's be my uncle ;D
It won't run in a vacuum, get realistic (just like the Dodge aberration, theoretical top speed, 250, falls down around 55 though : )

... hence my statement of "theoretical"... which we all know is usually just a big f**k you to potential LOL... but hey, I'm going to split it and go for 250 Meet it in the middle.. and doable....

 

[Rocker]

Hey Hoof

Yeah.. was gunna get to the grip factor later LOL... was more concerned about how to compromise between gearing and acceleration... but before I can do anything.. I have to write an email to the dude here in Oz that handles all the queries and technicals of DLRA... i guess first thing is to find what record i want.. and what modes I can make.. and then be seriously honest with myself and consider my best options. I may end up only running 160mph naked with a mini fairing.. hell, it may even be street registered LOL.... but i won't really know what I can do until I talk to this guy. It appears there is just too many different classes and sub-categories etc.... I need to see what I can get away with on my budget and find a record that will suit I guess... for starters

Oh... and I see what you mean about the wheel spin.... it's very evident in that photo.... tyres.. hmmm... a whole different kettle of fish ay bro

Wouldn't admit it to a jury, but i once did 300 km/hr... or twice. It's ridiculously quick and scary... I have ni idea how you keep something on salt at that speed... tarmac is a totally different planet LOL

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

How about the Union Pacific "Big Boy" 4-8-8-4 steam locomotive from the '40s!!!
Length Overall: 132 ft 9¼ in (40.47 m)
Height: 16ft 2 1/2 in (4.94m)
Locomotive and Tender combined weight: 1,250,000 lb (566,990.5 kilograms)
Four Cylinders @ 23.75 × 32 in (603 × 813 mm) each
Top Speed 80MPH (103km/h)
They could generate a maximum of 6200 drawbar HP... and regularly pulled 4,450 tons (4,040 mt) up grade unassisted.

 

[Rocker]

THAT IS AWESOMENESS

Nice find! Quite the impressive beast aint it?!

 

[Hoosier Daddy]

Updated the pic with something to show the scale of it!

 

[Rocker]

WOAH! That's pretty big!...

I've up'd a pic with something else in the photo to show the scale of it

Antanov 225 baby.... biggest mofo plane in the mofo world 8)

 

[Rocker]

*in Monty Python Voice*"AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT...."

well, different in the way that different means change of machine.. thought I'd bring it back to bikes

All i know is that it's a BIGF**KOFF cc Diesel motor.. single piston... but runs crazy compression... I think it turns out about 2-3 litres.. don't quote me on that... anyone know anymore.. please fee free

 

[haplo_84]

If i remember correctly that was a 2000cc single thumper. Couldn't imagine riding that sucker around.