CB200T build - nearly completed. see page 8 and 9 for pics

[Erskine]

Re: my CB200T build

Good plan on the Wheel swap ...... I'd recommend fitting it now and sussing out the spacing and other mods first, before getting a nice paint job done! And then while the paint dries if the spacing runs into too many 12mm penny washers you could scope out neater one piece spacers. Front end looks damn good.

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Good plan on the Wheel swap ...... I'd recommend fitting it now and sussing out the spacing and other mods first, before getting a nice paint job done! And then while the paint dries if the spacing runs into too many 12mm penny washers you could scope out neater one piece spacers. Front end looks damn good.

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Fortunately the CB175 wheel I bought on ebay actually has a nice tire mounted on it, so I could even get the thing running nice and make sure the brakes work before taking if off, swapping tires to my new ones i purchased, and getting it powder coated.

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

by the way, once the conversion is done to the new wheel, I will have available a CB200T wheel with disc and brake caliper in gold! Might be a tough sell, but I might try and get rid of it anyways to recoop some money spent on the CB175 front end conversion.

 

[Erskine]

Re: my CB200T build

I'm sure someone will snap it up.
I came across this site today ...... interesting piece on getting 2LS brakes to work well. A good read
http://victorylibrary.com/brit/2LS-2.htm

 

[sbaugz]

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interesting read. Thanks for posting link.

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Starting to think ahead about which POD filters I will use.

I am using the complete stock CL200 pipes and muffler, and stock carbs, but I am getting rid of stock air filters.

My goal is to not have to re-jet the bike if possible, mostly because I don't want to deal with re-jetting and trying to track down jets. Anyways, I am going to replace the stock airboxes with two individual POD filters. Just wondering if this is going to be possible (without re-jetting) and if so, what type of POD filters should I get based on the pictures I post below.

There are some K&N filters and UNI filters, which are pretty big. I also found some Briggs Animal Racing Kart filters which will fit. Finally, the last picture shows some pretty small, angled carbs I found on ebay. Justing wondering which type of carb will allow me to run near stock settings (ie, smaller or larger POD filters). Was thinking maybe the smaller POD filters will limit air intake and might therefore more closely replicate the stock airbox.

K&N 20 degree angled: comes in 4" and 5" long version

UNI angled filter:

Briggs animal air filter: This one comes in both a 4" and 5" long version

Finally, the small little filter as seen on ebay. Here is a link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380233750736&category=43979&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

on another note, I received my complete CB175 wheel and drum brake setup from a guy on ebay.
It was a direct bolt-on swap with my bike. No mods or extra spacers were needed except I need a couple washers for the CB200T fender.
Even the drum brake stay bolted right onto the cb200t fork. I did have to use a washer to fill the hole on the stay because it was too large a diameter but I just happened to have a washer that fit inside the stay, yet the mounting bolt still fit through it in order to bolt it onto the fork.
In case anyone wants to know- it was a 1972 CB175 drum brake and wheel that I put onto my 1975 CB200T forks/ triple tree setup.

 

[Erskine]

Re: my CB200T build

Good news on the wheel swap. It's a pain in the arse trying to centralise wheels.
I agree, the more restrictive pods could do the trick.

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Good news on the wheel swap. It's a pain in the arse trying to centralise wheels.
I agree, the more restrictive pods could do the trick.

I guess I didn't really "centralize" it. It just bolted on and there wasn't any extra space between forks. Now you have me thinking I should rethink this and do some measuring or something? Thoughts would be appreciated.

 

[ProSimex]

Re: my CB200T build

Good call on the front drum, discs are lame and the reservoire on the handlebars is an eyesore. Drum brakes can totally apply more braking power then needed.

 

[Erskine]

Re: my CB200T build

I guess I didn't really "centralize" it. It just bolted on and there wasn't any extra space between forks. Now you have me thinking I should rethink this and do some measuring or something? Thoughts would be appreciated.

Honda were really good at using as many common parts as possible to reduce on retooling costs. If the wheel slid right in and bolted up without any obvious cranking in of the fork legs I'd imagine that the models probably have the same triple tree. Ramming a chubby finger in or eye balling the distance between the rim and the forks will give you a good idea if all is well. I had problems in the past centralising a hub from narrower trees in wider ones and getting decent brake plate lug engagement.

 

[deepwaterimports]

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Hay mate ,

Bike is looking killer so far exhaust is looking great the cl175 really suits the cb200. Just a question to mate are you keeping the rear shocks or replacing etc???? I’m kinda stuck with mine and am thinking of just replacing straight up what do u think????? If u could suggest a good set also id appreciate it this is a shout out to all guys as well as I’m in need of a lil help.

Great build so far keep it up keen to see how she turns out
Michael

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Hay mate ,

Bike is looking killer so far exhaust is looking great the cl175 really suits the cb200. Just a question to mate are you keeping the rear shocks or replacing etc???? I’m kinda stuck with mine and am thinking of just replacing straight up what do u think????? If u could suggest a good set also id appreciate it this is a shout out to all guys as well as I’m in need of a lil help.

Great build so far keep it up keen to see how she turns out
Michael

Thanks for compliments.
I ended up buying a "new" used set of rear shocks on ebay. Got them for about $50 and there isn't any rust.

As far as other options:
These will work here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Motorcycle-Shocks-Fit-Honda-CB175-CB350-CB360-CB-/360393755996?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item53e9244d5c
I actually bought those listed above on ebay first, and they fit fine. I just decided I did not like the chrome shroud over the top and sent them back and got some used OEM ones.

Another option:
http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Cafe-Front%20End%20and%20Suspension.htm
A little longer than stock, but they come in black-on-black and black-on-chrome, which is kinda cool.

yet another option:
http://www.liquidchopperstore.com/kms-1.html
again, these are just a little longer than stock but will work. THese are OEM redwing shocks.

Omar's has them too:
http://omarsdtr.com/shox3.html

There are lots of options out there. Just do a search for 12 1/4" shocks (310mm). You can also use up to 13" shocks.

 

[deepwaterimports]

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Thanks for compliments.
I ended up buying a "new" used set of rear shocks on ebay. Got them for about $50 and there isn't any rust.

As far as other options:
These will work here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chrome-Motorcycle-Shocks-Fit-Honda-CB175-CB350-CB360-CB-/360393755996?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item53e9244d5c
I actually bought those listed above on ebay first, and they fit fine. I just decided I did not like the chrome shroud over the top and sent them back and got some used OEM ones.

Another option:
http://www.cyclexchange.net/Honda%20Cafe-Front%20End%20and%20Suspension.htm
A little longer than stock, but they come in black-on-black and black-on-chrome, which is kinda cool.

yet another option:
http://www.liquidchopperstore.com/kms-1.html
again, these are just a little longer than stock but will work. THese are OEM redwing shocks.

Omar's has them too:
http://omarsdtr.com/shox3.html

There are lots of options out there. Just do a search for 12 1/4" shocks (310mm). You can also use up to 13" shocks.

thanks heaps mate that helps alot

 

[Crash]

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Very Cool Build! Any issues getting the CL175 exhaust to fit up?

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Very Cool Build! Any issues getting the CL175 exhaust to fit up?

not really. They pretty much bolted right on. The only issue is that the pipes sit a little tight against the engine. If they rattle, I might have to have them bent slightlt or else wrap a small section where it touches motor with an inch or two of pipe wrap. I don't think it will be a problem though.
Otherwise they bolt up just fine.

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Its been forever since I have updated this build. I am just waiting for the fabricator to finish the seat and frame paint.I basically cannot do anything until he finishes up. Its been about 4 months and he says it will supposedly be done next week.

In the meantime, I have been looking for some filters to use for the stock carbs. I thought about switching to Mikuni's but ended up keeping the stock carbs. The intake diameter is 1.25" or 32mm. The center frame brace makes ordinary filters difficult to use, so you need to use angled ones. K&N makes some for about $45 a piece. I stumbled across some other ones on ebay today and picked up a pair. They are for a Briggs Animal carb from a Kart. They are angled 20 degrees. Price was $15 shipped for the pair. Normally these go for $15 a piece or more. There are four pairs left on this auction as of this writing. Thought I would share this for anyone else that is doing a CB200 build.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-New-G0100-Briggs-Animal-Air-Filters-Kart-Racing-Vintage-Karts-Mini-Bikes-/160722512675?pt=Race_Car_Parts&vxp=mtr&hash=item256bceeb23

 

[sbaugz]

Re: my CB200T build

Been way too long for an update. Frame and tank have been at fabricator for 4 months. He's been busy with other things so not much has been done.

He called to tell me that he had to weld on the back of it, and as a result, the Caswell tank sealer melted in those areas. Went to pick up tank. Was going to just recoat but decided to strip the sealer out. What a pain in the ass that was. Used paint stripper and it took about 3 days and several coats. Finally got most of it out. Have to go to the local Ducati dealer and pick up some more Caswell so I can recoat.

As far as tank modifications- he removed the stock tank mount tab and welded a flat plate on back of tank to clean it up significantly. The seat is very low and would have looked funny where it met the tank mount. Now, with this plate welded on and filled in, there is nothing to get in way visually. It now mounts from underneath using a couple allen bolts. Very clean setup.

The frame is still being worked on. Getting rid of all the rear cross braces and rear fender insert. Also cutting off everything from frame that is behind the shock mount bolts. Should be cleaned up very well.

Also had some bad news from fabricator- says the tank is pretty thin towards the back. He had a little trouble while welding the rear plate on and had noticed it was very thin. I had planned on having a polished tank but he strongly discouraged that due to the metal being thin. In his experience, metal polishers tend to get aggressive and we could run into problems with tank weakening or punching through in the rear. So-- tank will be black, along with frame and seat pan. The two "chrome" strips from the CB200T tank are already PC'd gold, along with the gas cap. Should look pretty cool with black and gold accents. More to follow soon hopefully.

 

[sbaugz]

Re: "killer b" CB200T build - updated with pics

well, I got my tank, seat pan, and frame back from painter/ fabricator finally. Its been a long wait.
I mocked everything up when I got home and was pretty bummed that the rear fender he welded on will contact the rear tire. It has to go back to fabricator to be fixed this week. I thought about getting 13.2" shocks from DCC to give me more clearance but I don't think those will work. When I lift rear end up an inch to see if longer shocks would work, it looks like the chain will contact the top of swingarm.

In the meantime, I mocked up all the major parts to get a feel for the look.

The tank is stock OEM CB200T modified by having the mount tab taken off and in place there is hidden mount underneath tank. Its a much more clean appearance.

The seat pan is made from steel- hand formed on English wheel.

Frame is de-tabbed, braced, and has a sheet metal subframe under frame rails to hold battery, regulator, etc.

Pipes are CL175 and fit perfectly. The headers are a little rusty so I might use some black pipe wrap on them. Will keep the heat shields chrome probably.

Hope you all enjoy. I was skeptical about the "gold" powder color because it looks yellow. I actually am really happy with how it looks together though.

I am having a major issue fitting air filter PODs on the carbs. The frame has that main support down middle that is making it difficult. I got some 20 degree offset K&N's but they don't fit. I'd love to hear other suggestions.

On to the pics.

 

[haplo_84]

Re: "killer b" CB200T build - updated with pics

I don't know how you feel about it but you could always cut the filters lightly shorter and re-glue the end cap back onto the filters to kind of angle them out of the way of the frame. I know it sounds like a ghetto chop idea but if done cleanly and I'm sure you could with the skills that you have shown so far i think you could make it look pretty good.